HRT Injections

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I've summarized some information here, but make sure you research properly elsewhere as I don't know much about this and have no practical experience. Writing this is my way of learning, and I may as well share.

This is mainly related to injecting HRT, although injecting lidocaine is kind of interesting due to its use in electrolysis and implants/pellets.

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Injection Techniques

There are two injection techniques for HRT and there appears to be no difference in how effective they are for HRT.

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Subcutaneous Injections

Beverly Cosgrove (admin of a major trans HRT group on Facebook) has some very good information on how to do subcutaneous injections, including YouTube videos.

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Using the wrong length needles

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Intramuscular Injections

I've seen Nipro 27g 1.25" needles recommended as very sharp and low pain. The length of the needle may vary a bit depending on how much fat you have as you need to go through the fat and into the muscle below.

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Injecting Nebido/Reandron

Used by FTM's, it appears that this is typically injected by a nurse/doctor, but some do it themselves.

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Sterile Procedures

After wiping the area to be injected with a alcohol swab let it dry before injecting. Alcohol can sting.

There's reccomendations that wiping the skin with a swab is not necessary

The empty syring package is sterile and can be used to temporarily store the prepared syring before use rather than placing it on a potentially non-sterile surface.

Injecting cold liquid may be more painful than room temperature. However oils are also more viscous at cold temperatures, so you might want to warm it up anway. There's also a risk of estradiol crystalising out of solution in the cold (crashing).


Complications

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Fainting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncope_(medicine) - "Syncope, commonly known as fainting, is a loss of consciousness and muscle strength characterized by a fast onset, short duration, and spontaneous recovery. It is caused by a decrease in blood flow to the brain, typically from low blood pressure. There are sometimes symptoms before the loss of consciousness such as lightheadedness, sweating, pale skin, blurred vision, nausea, vomiting, or feeling warm. Syncope may also be associated with a short episode of muscle twitching. Psychiatric causes can also be determined when a patient experiences fear, anxiety, or panic; particularly before a stressful event usually medical in nature. When consciousness and muscle strength are not completely lost, it is called presyncope. It is recommended that presyncope be treated the same as syncope."

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Syringes and Needles

Ideally you want to draw and inject quickly, accuratly, and with minimal pain. The choice of syringe and needle depends on a number of trade-offs.

In practice this means that if you want to inject 0.1ml you'll need to use an insulin syringe. As these have short needles you'll need to perform a subcutaneous injection, and the oil must be thin enough to draw through the fine gauge needle. Conversely, if you want to an intramuscular injection you can't use the short needle on an insulin syringe, so you must use at least a 1ml+ Luer-Lok (or Slip) syringe and can't accurately inject a very small amount. If you want to inject a very thick oil you'll need to use a larger gauge needle, again the 1ml+ Luer-Lok syringe. Given these constraints there are some types of injections that are not practical.

Don't use too large a drawing needle as it can damage the cap of the estrogen vial (if you're using one rather than a glass ampule), leading to rubber fragments in the vial and/or leakage. This is referred to as coring, see below.

Wipe the septum (stopper) of a vial clean with a 70% alcohol pad to stealize it before use, both on the first and subsequent uses (or not as there's reccomendations that its not neccessary).

Luer-Lok syringes have a locking twist mechanism that prevents the needle popping off the syringe under pressure (ie when injecting a thick oil through a fine needle). Luer-Slip syringes use friction fitting to hold the needle on the syringe. The needle used for these types of syringes fits both Luer-Lok and Luer-Slip syringes. For thick oil based injections (ie estradiol) use Luer-Lok as self-injecting is bad enough without the syringe falling apart, and worse, not knowing how much you've already injected.

Finer, smaller diameter needles cause less pain.

Needle diameters are specified using the Birmingham gauge. A smaller number indicates a larger diameter needle, so a 23G (gauge) needle that might be used for drawing (from the vial) is larger than a 30G used to inject. The needles are color coded, and I've noticed the few times I've asked a doctor what gauge they are using they didn't know (and don't seem to care all that much). They go by color.

The maximum length of needles tends to reduce as the diameter of the needle decreases. The maximum length of a 30G needle is around 0.5", while 22G needles are easily available up to 1.5". Longer 1" 30G needles do exist (BD 305128, Terumo NN-3025R), but are difficult to find, expensive, and are not available in Australia at all. However, it seems unlikely these would be useful for injecting estrogen as they are too long for subcutaneous and probably too short for intramuscular injections (and assuming you can push the oil through them). 30G 1" needles are also available on Aliexpress, however buying medical supplies from these kinds of sites seems rather risky.

Its difficult to find needles smaller than 30G, although they are available up to around 33G, where the cost starts increasing rapidly. The smallest one's I've found are the low dead space TSK Invisible Needle which they say are 14% thinner than their 33G needles. I don't think it would be possible to uses these to inject estrogen as the oils are too thick to push through such a fine needle. Due to the varying viscosity of oils you may need to experiment with the minimum size of the needle and time taken to do the injection - or just use a large diameter needle and not worry about it. I would guess these fine needles are usable for injecting local anaesthetics for electrolysis, but doctors probably won't have them as they are very expensive, harder to source, and as the needle is short it would require more injections and time. The TSK needle Invisible Needle is only 9mm, and the slightly larger TSK 33G needle is half the price (around US$50 vs US$100 per box of 100) and a slightly better 13mm (I believe doctors use much larger diameter and longer needles for local anaesthetics - best not think about it).

Some doctors suggest/prescibe 18G needles. Try to avoid them, they are very large diameter, tend to hurt, core vial stoppers, and are unnecessary for HRT. Larger than 18G, eg 16G start to go up in price and no one uses them for HRT, I hope.

Ideally the smallest (volume) syringe possible should be used. Smaller syringes are more accurate and generate higher injection pressure, making it easier to perform the injection (drawing pressure is about the same). Luer slip/lok syringes range from 1ml upwards, while insulin syringes are from 0.3ml to 1.0ml. See Dose Accuracy and Syringe Pressure below.

Do you blood tests immediately before your next injection

For injections in Australia, see wiki page Estrogen Injections.

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Coring

Don't use too large a drawing needle as it can damage the cap of the estrogen vial (if you're using one rather than a glass ampule), leading to rubber fragments in the vial and/or leakage. This is referred to as coring. There are many reports in trans forums of 18G needles damaging the septum (stopper) of the vial and 23G (or 25G) is normally recommended for the draw needle and it appears to completely stop coring. Medical references suggesting angling the needle as its inserted, but its rare to hear anyone in trans spaces suggest this. The difference may be in the way its used - doctors are busy, but we don't mind taking longer to draw from the vial with a finer needle, and we also do it multiple times with the same vial. Don't insert the needle though the same place in the stopper each time.

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Dead Space

Low dead space syringes and needles are designed to minimize the amount of drug remaining in the syringe and needle after injecting. These are useful when the drugs used are expensive.

The paper 2018 Options for reducing HIV transmission related to the dead space in needles and syringes has an image with 4 syringes and their average deadspace. The low deadspace syringe with attached needle should be an insulin syringe. Note that 0.1ml corresponds to 100 µL, so if you were injecting that anmount you'd be wasting the same amount (99 µL) in the deadspace and your vial would last half as long.

Syringe Deadspace
Standard syringe with standard needle 99 µL
Low deadspace syringe with attached needle 3 µL
Standard syringe with low deadspace needle 12 µL
Low deadspace syringe with standard needle 45 µL

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2022 - The Effectiveness of Low Dead Space Syringes for Reducing the Risk of Hepatitis C Virus Acquisition Among People Who Inject Drugs: Findings From a National Survey in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland by Adam Trickey, Sara Croxford, Eva Emanuel, Samreen Ijaz, Matthew Hickman, Joanna Kesten, Clare Thomas, Claire Edmundson, Monica Desai, Peter Vickerman - related to recreational drug use

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Reading a Syringe

https://www.registerednursern.com/how-to-read-a-syringe

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Dose Accuracy

Smaller syringes allow more accurate dosing (assuming its not too small).

The specification for a 1ml BD Luer-Lok syringe gives an accuracy of ±5%, but below 0.2ml its 0.07ml. Hence below 0.2ml the accuracy is ±35% at best.

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Syringe Pressure

Smaller syringes generate more pressure when injecting. eg 361 psi for 1ml vs. 177 psi for 3ml, see Hayward 2011. The syringe size and needle diameter makes little difference to maximum vacumn, measured around 10 psi by Haseler 2010 (10 psi is the 517 Torr of the paper). The maxiumum pressure generated by a vacumn is the atmospheric pressure, around 14.696 psi at sea level (on Earth).

We can see then that the injection pressure is far greater than the draw pressure, and we can therefore inject far thicker liquids than we can draw. Hence we use larger needles to draw than to inject.

In principle we could inject/draw thick liquids through fine needles, but at some point the time taken to do so makes it impractical.

In practice the needle size for thick oils may need to be determined experimentally. ie try it and see how it goes.

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Backfilling Syringes

Backfilling refers to filling a syringe from the back instead of the usual way though the needle.

The syringe plunger is removed and another syringe is used to fill it. When the needle is fixed and cannot be replaced (e insulin syringes) this avoids blunting it, reducing pain. Where the injected liquid is very thick it may also be faster. However, the cost is higher as a second syringe is used and its more difficult to maintain sterility.

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The 2019 FACES video says that backfilling is not safe, against WHO rules, and should be done using a luer lok syringe adaptor instead. The Baxter H93813901 shown costs around US$140 for 50 (in 2021). This method would not work with syringes that have fixed needles (eg insulin syringes).

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Insulin Syringe

Insulin syringes have integrated 29-31g needles, are low dead space, and range from 0.3ml, 0.5ml and 1.0m. As a separate draw needle cannot be used the needle will be slightly blunted when piercing the septum (stopper) of a vial. To avoid this problem some people backfill the syringe by removing the plunger from the syringe and filling it from another syringe. Care must be taken to keep everything sterile.

Tuberculin Syringe

I'm not too sure about this type of syringe, but they appear to be special syringes intended for tuberculosis testing. They are low dead space, usually 1ml with a built-in 27 gauge 13mm needle. They are of interest primarily because they are cheaper than insulin syringes, and far cheaper than 1ml Luer-Lok syringes.

Dental Syringes

Dental syringes and needles are not compatible with the normal Luer slip/lok syringes we would use. They are designed to take premade drug carpules (cartridges) of local anaesthetics (eg Septodont Lignospan), in several sizes around 2ml.

I've never heard of anyone making their own carpules, although it appears you can buy the necessary materials on Alibaba or at bottlecn.com (these are 1.5ml and 3ml, which doesn't appear to be a standard size for dental injections). It seems like a waste of time even trying.

Autoinjectors

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoinjector - "An autoinjector (or auto-injector) is a medical device designed to deliver a dose of a particular drug. The injectors were initially designed to overcome the hesitation associated with self-administration of the needle-based drug delivery device."

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Air Bubbles

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Smaller Volume Syringes

TSK

TSK make a 0.7ml low dead space luer lock syringe, product code TSY-0071P. Its expensive.

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Microliter Syringes

The smallest medical syringes available appear to be 0.3ml insulin syringes with fixed needles, or 1ml Luer slip/lok syringes. These are not ideal if you're using high concentration low volume estradiol injections.

There are smaller syringes available, but they appear to be intended for very specialised and are very expensive.

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For example, the Hamilton 100 µL Gastight Syringe Model 1710 TLL, PTFE Luer Lock is a 0.1ml syringe for "Precision Measurement" and costs around US$100 each. Its part of a range of syringes measuring from 0.5 µL upwards. Since its made of glass and PTFE it can presumably be sterilised and reused, and given that its Luer Lok it should be able to take normal needles.

NanoFil

Used in animal research.

These are no Luer-Lok.

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Needle Depth Stop

Like a drill stop, this device can control the depth to which a syringe needle penetrates. It seems like it could be useful if you're doing Kenalog injections into scar tissue (which need to go into the scar, not anywhere else).

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It might be feasible (cheap) to make a home made version just by cutting the end off a needle cap.

3ml Insulin Pen

DIY supplier oelabs sell an insulin injector and 3ml estradiol Enanthate multidose 'vials', described as "Cartridge of estradiol Enanthate 3 mL. Suitable with insulin (compatible ref. Humapen Savvio Lilly)." I've not seen these 3ml vials for estradiol anywhere else.

The HumaPen Savvio is manufactured by Lilly, a subsidiary of Eli Lilly, as an insulin injection device. The photos of this device look different to the one on eolabs site.

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Needle Free Injections

I don't know if any of these are suited to injecting viscous oil based liquids (ie hormones), but anaesthetics are more like water so would presumably work.

For anesthetic use it might be best to use these to get the first location numb, then use a normal needle to work out from that area (which should be painless if done properly).

They tend to be very expensive, have consumables, and more suited to professional use.

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Dermojet

These are over €500.

https://dermojet.com - "The DERMOJET works without a cartridge, bottle or carpule and therefore does not use any single-use plastic. It is not delivered with medicinal substances; it is the practitioner who chooses the solution to be injected during the filling of the reservoir."

Hyaluron Pens

These devices don't appear to be medically regulated, hence there is no assurance that the device or consumables are safe (and in particular sterile).

Lots of these from online suppliers like e-bay, Aliexpress, etc. Cheap.

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Insujet

This device looks like it might require special cartridges prefilled with drugs.

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https://www.needlefreereviews.com/insujet-needle-free-injector/ in 2018, costs $190.

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PharmaJet

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This competitors page states "However, all their needle-free devices are currently only available in limited forms by prescriptions for vaccinations or other pre-loaded medicines... Pharmajet used to sell a needleless injection device that was available to the general public, however, that was discontinued, and no further news regarding whether or not they will bring it back to the market has been available."

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Expiry Date

Needles have a 5 year shelf-life, and it's not clear if anyone knows how long they actually last. See Healthline, Ask D'Mine: Do Needles Expire?

Anyway, there you have it. Straight from the source of the Nile. The Needle Makers have chosen a date—perhaps by doing research, perhaps by letting the marketing department pick a date, or perhaps by putting it to the lawyers—and then have proved to themselves that their products will last that long.

Filter Needles

Some drugs are stored in glass ampules rather than vials, and opening them introduces glass particles into the drug. Apparently there's no evidence of harm so the medical profession has decided its not worth the cost of using filter needles. Personally, I'd rather use a filter needle.

Filter needles are quite large so probably should not be used with reusable vials as they could cause coring.

A filter needle has the filter built into the needle and looks much like a normal needle. There's another type of syringe filter, the wheel filter. I'm not sure which is most appropriate, but I found many references to wheel filters among recreational drug users (I think they crush non-injectable drugs, dissolve the drug part, and filter out all the non-dissolvable part, or something like that). Filters might be used when compounding injectable estradiol.

Filter needles are more expensive than normal needles. An example is US$10 for ten 5 μm (micron) filters at Westend Medical Supplies. Wheel filters should also be suitable. Filters must be sterile.

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Retractable Syringe

These are for safety. Personally, I don't think these are particulary benificial for self injecting (i.e. no blood borne diseases from others).

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Side Hole Needles

Huber (or Tuohy) needles have a hole in the side of the syringe rather than the top, and is said to reduce/prevent coring (in applications other than drawing from a vial). I'm not confident this is the correct name as some photos show the hole entirely on the side, others do not.

When searching for side hole needles add irrigation into the search. e.g.

side hole needle irrigation

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Syringe Manufacturers

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As far as I can work out

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Needle Safety

There's a number of safety oriented syringes, desiged to prevent needle stick injuries. Doctors are very very careful with needles as they can catch serious diseases this way, but personally I'm not interested as it doesn't really matter if stick yourself if you're the only person using it.

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Reusing Syringes and Needles

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Sharpness

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History

https://medicine.uq.edu.au/blog/2018/12/history-syringes-and-needles



Buying Syringes and Needles

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Australia

You don't need a prescription to buy needles and syringes in Australia, and they can easily be ordered from online stores. Pharmacies may not have what you want in stock, but at least in some cases can order them in for pickup.

You can quite easily find sellers by using google to search for a particular brand of needles on Australian sites. For example, type this into google

nipro needle site:au

Some examples are

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Russia

You'll need to edit the Russian links to make them work - reddit has been automatically removing pages with Russian links.

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From the r/transDIY wiki entry Buying needles and syringes online (so prescription should not be required)

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Ampules

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Storing Drugs in Syringes

If you get your HRT in a glass ampule its intended for single use only and the remainder will go to waste. It is possible to injectable estrogen in a syringe, but its not an FDA approved way to do it.

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Disposal

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