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I did not know this was possible, that's so cool!
Ya I'm so stunned of what is possible nowadays 🤯😳🥳
I also think it's cool this is possible now. One step at a time, and someday trans people may have the ability to adjust any part of the body.
I'm not considering this procedure myself, since I already wear wide-fit footwear, but do you know if there anything for foot-narrowing procedures? I've just been up-sizing by half a shoe size when I can't find wide-fit that I like.
Yes I also got the feet narrowed, the muscle on the outer side was removed and also some fat tissue as well as my tailor's bunion, indeed they're a lot slimmer now even with the swelling. The muscle has no function anymore btw, it's just a genetic leftover of the time when we used out feet like monkeys do to grab a branch)
Ah, I see, I didn't know that!
what is the name of this muscule ? thx
Hey love where did you have your procedure? I’ve been looking into Dr. Ray in Miami who does the full foot which is what your looks like. Also what is your projected foot shortening size and what was it before? Happy recovery 🌸
Heya, I did it in Düsseldorf, Germany. Actually I only got my toes shortened and the 5th metatarsal corrected. So theoretically it's only the half foot as it's possible to shorten the whole metatarsus aswell. Think I gonna do this aswell next year. As the surgeon told me today that he could remove around 11mm it will be around 42/43. With shortening of metatarsus 40 should be possible.
Who was your surgeon?
Dr. Adem Erdogan in Düsseldorf, Germany
Hello do you mind sharing the cost of your surgery please ? Did it go well after the recovery ? I collected a lot of informations for this surgery from American surgeons but I live in Europe so it would be awesome to have more informations about this specific surgeon.
Hi, first, schöne Grüße aus Österreich :)
How have your feet healed, do you feel fine? And how long did it take to heal? Can you do everything like normal? And what is your size now?
And how much did you pay for that?
Very cool it’s possible, but I’m wincing just seeing these pics…. Hope the healing goes well.
siri add to notes, avoid feet shrinking surgery… too painful
Thank you 😊🤗 ya they said it looks really good already, my luck I have some epic curing abilities. Pain isn't "sooo" bad, it's half the pain of a rib removal but not being able to walk really sucks 🙈
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Tell me more please, I've been looking at that as a long-term goal with Barry Epply in the US.
I also thought about going to Dr. Epply however he is a plastic surgeon not a thorax surgeon. I went to a clinic specialized in thorax surgery, those surgeons do nothing else than cutting ribs every day to prepare the access for pulmonary or heart surgeons. They are also perfectly prepared if any complication appears like lung collapse or hemothorax. But here's the thing they did the whole surgery endoscopic what is absolutely mind blowing as every rib has a functional nerve for the abs on it's inner side which has to be protected by any means or you lose ability to contract your abs. My scars are about 4 cm each side, two in the front two in the back. If you ask me it's the best rib removal world wide, I'm so happy 🥳🥳🥳💫✨ Nobody would think it was a rib removal lol. And after all I only paid half the price of Epply. US is incredibly expensive regarding surgeries. I will soon post about it too.
That’s awesome! I have extremely prominent ribs and none of the surgeons I’ve spoken to have been helpful. Mind sharing what clinic you went to? I’m glad you had a good experience (other than the pain it sounds like 😖)
Where's this facility/what's the name?
Side note: have you had that done? I really want to get it 😬👀😫
Ya I got the ribs 12 11 and 10 removed and a reduction of the costal cartilage. However I already spoke with the surgeon to plan a shortening of rib 9 8 and 7 to narrow the upper thorax aswell.
You can do that?! Oh my god you’re giving me hope I will be looking into it! :)
Jesus...really going for it aren't you...you know, vacations and hobbies are nice ways to spend money too lmao
I prefer to spend the money for my long term happiness. I don't want a car, no house, no 5star hotels... I want to be happy with my body and my life and I never imagined that I can be as happy as I am today. I do what's the right thing for me ✨💫✨
I didn't even know this was possible! I'm extremely self-conscious about the size of my feet (US size 10.5 in womens, EU 42.5 apparently) but I don't know if this is in the cards for me. I know that doesn't seem overly large, but I'm only 5'6", so they feel enormous to me. Thank god flares and wide legs are back in fashion, the skinny jeans era was pure misery.
Edit: The comments y'all are adding are actually pretty helpful. I don't know that I've ever met another woman with feet as big as mine, so knowing that they do exist helps me realize I shouldn't fixate on it so much.
Haha truly yea, guess considering my height (183cm) my feet were not too tall however my addiction for shoes and depressions every time I pass a shoe store made me doing this 😅 can't wait to enter a shoe store now 🤣
Oh yeah. In Europe I can find most shoes in 41, everything in 40, and literally nothing in 42. I was lucky to naturally shrink from 42.5 to 40.... But the floating ribs? Mime are horrible... Need that done badly...
naturally shrink from 42.5 to 40
naturally shrink from 42.5 to 40 ?
it's a secondary effect of oestrogène ? ( I haven't lost anything )
how old are you ? thx
EU shoe size. Over 40 years old
n'y a littéralement qu'un seul chirurgien (Katherine Gast).
Non seulement la file d'attente est ridicule, mais je ne sais pas si son style correspond à ce que je souhaite.
Je recherche soit la technique péritonéale, soit celle du côlon.
Étant donné que je suis sûr que je ne pourrai pas utiliser l'assurance entre les États et les pays, je devrai opter pour une option plus
after how many month ?
c'était plutôt rapide, peut-être 3-6 mois ? il y a quatre ans, donc je m'en souviens à peine.
I mean my first gf back at Uni was 175 and had size 42 feet… she was cis. Not something I would have noticed as being out of the ordinary if I hadn’t noticed some of her shoes fit me.
I was really self conscious of my US 10 shoe size until I met my ex's family where all the women wore size 11+. Then chatting with more folks I discovered that 10+ shoe size is SUPER common.
Ya it is, and it absolutely sux that 95% of shoe manufacturers don't consider that woman can have 11+ too. They're causing a lot of dysphoria also for cis girls. They can do some nice rainbow prints to make some extra sells to lbgtq people but don't make taller shoes, they don't care a shit about it... At the end some people think they have to do surgery to fit into their specifications 😅 hello me 🤗
That’s about the right size tho. My sis is 5”6 and she wears a 10 in women. My mom wears an 11 in women, my other sis wears a 9 and I wear an 8 and I’m 5”2. We’re all cis. Your feet are on par with your height.
My feet are Eu44, I'm 5'5"... I just rock it.. I usually wear sneakers, or boots (like doc martens). I've had people comment on my feet being big but as far as I'm aware I've never been clocked (most people I've come out to have thought I was FTM or something lmao.)
Wow! Thank you for sharing this! I wasn’t aware of this surgery, it’s so cool to know that it’s possible.
Ya I'm so glad that I'm living in this time and not 50 years ago ✨💫✨
This hurts so bad 🙈😅 At first I planned to only treat one foot, with toe shortening D1-D4, tailors bunion removal and shortening of the metatarsal 1-4.
However things changed and for time management I decided to operate both sides at the same time but without shortening of the middle foot.
So the big toe got shortened, bone is connected with screws, the toes 2, 3 and 4 got a little disc removed and are stabilized by a wire which will be removed after 6 weeks. To treat the tailor's bunion the 5th metatarsal was cut and the position corrected. Also I got the muscle for the pinky removed to achieve a narrowing of the foot. They used metal clips to close the wound.
I can get on my feet if only standing on the heels, however I have to wear special shoes for it. Walking is kinda impossible atm.
Of course I gonna spend some time in wheelchair, getting some insights now how hard daily things are if you can not use ur legs omg... My respect for all disabled people..
After all the feet should be around 7mm shorter, however I have to measure it once it's fully healed. My feet were 28,3 cm / size eu 44 now it should be a 43 I guess.
With a shortening of the metatarsus I probably could reach 41 but after all it seemed a little bit too crazy for me as most of the body weight lies on the metatarsus and I don't want to risk brittle bones in the old age
Edit: it was actually 11mm not 7
My surgeon was Dr. Adem Erdogan in Düsseldorf, Germany
Wow in my mind that’s crazy for 7mm. What made you think it was worth it? Are there a lot more shoes available in 43 vs 44?
Actually I wanted to do a full shortening but changed my mind two days before surgery as things turned out different and I can't afford so much downtime this year. So one part of me doubts about doing the metatarsal shortening, the other still hopes for it 😅 I just spoke with the surgeon and actually it was 11 mm instead of 7 just wow. So should be a 42 now and there are a lot more woman shoes available than with 44 😇🥳🫠💫 with the metatarsal shortening it should be 40 😱🤩🥰
I considered it reading this post but im 47 so beyond helping mich anyway with 11mm😭
Well it depends, the taller the foot the more can be shortened, but actually I don't know anymore if I can recommend this procedure, I'm 4 months post op now. the fractures still aren't healed up/bonified, still walking in orthopaedic shoes and with crutches. I like how short my toes and how narrow my feet become but it has a really high price. After all I'm glad I haven't done the metatarsal shorten and will never do. Small feet are nice but healthy feet are better 😅
That is very good to know.. and thanks for getting back to me!! I can't imagine how hard it must be to be stuck waiting for them to heal this long im hoping the best that you recover soon! :)
Thank you very much 🤗🤗
In Germany? Yea. 43 is the absolute max you can find like ten pairs in all of Deichmann at.
44 doesn‘t exist in normal brick and mortar stores.
Getting down to 42 though, and you have a somewhat normal selection.
Doesn‘t matter much to me with 43 cause Schuhplus exists and they carry the standard female shoe styles up to 46.
Plus Zalando and the likes sell quite a few fast fashion shoes in 43 as well.
I didn't know this was an option. Did anyone here know if the surgery limits you ability to run out do other sports that are harder on the feet? I enjoy running enough to be worried about that.
I was very worried about this, that was also a reason I skipped the metatarsal shortening and did only the toes and tailors bunion. However the surgeon confirmed that there won't be any problems, even not in the old days when bone density decreases. He only operates feet and he is a very responsible person. My ask for a complete pinky removal and calcaneal shortening was denied. Guess I was a little bit too ambitious in the beginning 🤣
Asking to take off a whole toe to be able to buy more shoes is pretty heavy dedication.lol
🤣🤣🤣 no half things lol 😜
I didn't even know that was a thing. 👍 Congrats!
Thanks hun, ya everything is possible only our mind sets the limit ☺️✨💫
mind and money 😓
Thats true.. 😔 but without the first the second is useless. I'm sure you will reach your goals aswell, in the beginning of my transition I never thought I could afford any surgery. Well life can always surprise you 😊💫✨
How long on hrt were you? I went from euro 44 to euro 40 in 2 years? If I lose weight and go back to my natural weight (I have too much muscle) I should hit 39. I understand it’s very variable based on how much cartilage loss, fat, and muscle and if the arch changes ( I had very low arch but it is higher now). Best of luck to you with recover.
Wow thats a massive change. Im on hrt for 3 years now, also went from a 46 to a 44 due to weight loss and getting a better arch. Unfortunately bones doesn't change, only a great surgeon can help out with this 😅 Thanks for your wishes ☺️🤗💫
Do you have metal poles going through your toes 😬That looks so painful, but I’m happy for you!
Yes they go down to the base of the toe, so through the first and second joint, it looks brutal but I don't feel them at all. The sides hurt much more 😅
Does that mean you can never bend your toes again?
Pretty sure they take the pins out later.
Yes exactly, they stay for 6 weeks and will be removed afterwards. Theres no permanent limitation of movability.
Best wishes with your healing.
Thank you hun 🤗✨
I have Eu 48/49... 31.5cm.. This is a real Challenge... There is nearly No way to find shoes...
Life can be so rough.. 😔 I'm so sorry for you... Have you tried pleaser shoes? They offer up to size 50, but the designs are very limited.. You think about doing a foot shortening aswell?
Couldn’t you have asked for them to shrink it more
There were probably concerns about OP not being able to walk again or something like that. Presumably the 7mm was taken off because that was the limit of what the surgeon felt safe doing.
Actually it was 11 mm to my surprise. And yes there's a limit of how much you can shorten the bones. The physique has to considered, the tendons also set a limit. However the surg tried to go as far as possible and with 11 mm he hit the bull's eye imo.
So Peggy Hill COULD have had the doctor smash her foot up and put it back together in a size 5 lol
Where did you do it? I saw you are from Germany so did you do it with that doctor from Düsseldorf?
Yes exactly, such a nice person and great surgeon. Have you had a consultation already?
Oh no I don't want to get that surgery I have a 41 and can get almost all shoes from the female aisle, I just was interested since I pre transition looked into that surgery
What doctor is that?
Dr. Adem Erdogan
Wouldn't doing procedures like this have a huge risk of arthritis when you get older??
As far as I know there's no additional risk as the joints aren't touched, although the poles go through some of them 🤔 but the capsules are completely untouched. However I don't think there's any problem only if it gets infected. On the other hand the surgeon is correcting all misalignments what also prevents arthritis
Mama Mia, I can feel the second hand pain
u/hiddenstill OP won’t disclose surgeon after several requests from multiple people.
I wait for my surgeons permission to publish his name, I don't want to expose his reputation to potential haters which have no understanding for the whish of foot size reduction. It would be something else if the clinic would have a focus on transgender healthcare. Once I get his permission I'll post it.
What means OP btw in this context? I just guessed on what you want to say
There's no requirement to name surgeons.
Had my consultation today and got the permission so now I can name him. It was Dr. Adem Erdogan in Düsseldorf, Germany
How's recovery going?
Great so far ☺️ I can already walk, however still with medical shoes, the pins are getting removed on Thursday, then I can use common shoes again. However the only thing is that my big toe on the right foot still is a little bit twisted 🥨😅
I was wondering about the cost love ?
Hi beautiful please replay 😩❤️ I hope your doing good
Hey sorry to necro this post but I wanted to ask how has your recovery and results been?
Hi u/plastic_dani thank you for sharing you story. A quick question? Did you have to pay for this surgery out of pocket or was it covered by your insurance as medically necessary?
Is this possible 🤩🤩🤩!!!
It is 😅👍
Be happy with your new feet!
Thank you very much 🤗🤗
This post makes me feel better about my upcoming clavicle reduction. I’m doing it in Austria
Keep me updated, also thinking about it 😂 let's go for what is possible 🙌🙌
Pleaser
Hello, do you have any news about your clavicle surgery?
OMG THAT'S A THING!!!!!
who is your surgeon?
Dr. Adem Erdogan in Düsseldorf, Germany
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Uff I have very very high pain tolerance so it's hard to say. If rib removal was a 10 then the feet are a 6. However I was nearly losing consciousness by the pain of the rib removal although I had massive pain medication. Now for the feet I only get ibuprofen and novalgin. Unfortunately no targin 😔
Didn’t know this was a thing, definitely will think about it as a possibility in the future!
Who was your surgeon?
this is truly epic, but i Must know, what are the long term downsides of doing a procedure like this?
😳 uff nothing as far as I know and hope lol, it's also possible to remove the middle joint of the toe in that case you would have a small loss in movability, for example if you want to pick up a sock with your toes. However bones are cut and bones heal again 😅
this is awesome but can you get your hight shortened
Its possible to cut out a part of your femur to reduce hight but ull lose leg length so no option for me, Olivia Jones did this procedure , it's a travesty artist in Germany. However if then I'd like to shorten my upper body to get a better leg/body ratio but this isn't possible as there's no safe way to remove a vertebra
I didn't even know this was possible! oOoOO it looks so painful. Look...my dude just gonna have to accept these size 9's 😂
Do you know if there is an adjacent surgery for hands too? Also, hope your recovery goes well!
Yes I already asked a hand surgeon but he said that I shouldn't mess around with them, I have pretty thick joints and hoped for a possibility to narrow them, this isn't possible unfortunately... But it's possible to implant a rubber band around the middle hand bones to narrow the palms by compressing them slightly
Damn! Guess I’m stuck with these long, spindly hands then :(
Thanks anyway!
I found your post because of my dysphoria, im wonder how have things healed up?
I too am wondering how this surgery turned out. How's the progress 10 months on?
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