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So this has been a topic on the Jun discord since friday. Not a lot of additional information has come out with the following exceptions.
Juns new practice will be in the bay area. They provided an email to get in contact with him when new information is available (probably not till after oct 1st as contract with crane is ongoing)
Dr Celtik is the crane centers new surgeon. He is extremely new. He just finishes his residency at mt sinai. He will do PPT but as he is brand new we have no idea what his results will look like.
Crane will offer a reschedule with Dr Celtik to anyone after Oct 1st, otherwise appts after Oct 1st will be canceled
Juns new practice will be in the bay area. They provided an email to get in contact with him when new information is available (probably not till after oct 1st as contract with crane is ongoing)
I sent an email Friday evening and got a response on Saturday. It's very boilerplate stuff without any hard information. The one takeaway is that it sounds as if he doesn't have firm plans yet for what comes next, other than he intends to stay in the bay area.
In other words, it's not like he's already signed a deal with a new practice or made the choice to start his own. That's still up in the air.
I’d hope he’s giving priority to people who have already booked with him at the Crane Center. Given his reputation I can’t imagine too many will want to go with anyone else.
I run the discord server, if you are a patient and want an invite, either reply here or DM me.
Edit: RIP my inbox, if I don’t send you an invite after a day or so, feel free to send another message. I’ve never had this many people what to join before.
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Hello I would like an invite my tag is ElijahBuck#1113
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I’m a patient also, could I get an invite? Thank you!
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Add me! 😁
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I would like an invite if possible please ^.^ Directed here from my own Discord server after having a surgery scheduled with Dr. Jun so would like to keep up to date on information.
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me too please!
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Can I please get an invite as well? Thanks! I wasn’t even notified even though I have a consult with him in Oct…..RUDE!
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Can I get an invite please?
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I'd like an invite please :)
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I can’t see an obvious way to send you a private message. Can you send me one? OtherwisecI can drop a one time use invite link here and hopefully only you click it.
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Please invite mee! I had consult in February this is just awful
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I really hope Dr Celtik is a good pussy designer.
I just wouldn’t be taking that chance. What a nightmare
I guess you can give him a go. Hopefully you won’t regret it for the rest of your life, but there’s only one way to find out.
Anyone know if Celtik will work in the Bay or Austin?
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I was scheduled for early 24. I have not received this notification. Were you a scheduled patient, OP, or a past patient? This is not good at all. It has the potential to make it impossible for me. I'm blowing all my savings paying for cobra and am now down to just a year remaining eligibility.
I have no idea what's going on, just got this email from them today.
I'm a pre-op patient, have been working on getting everything situated to go to him at the crane center for almost a year now.
I had a March date. No notification here either.
I talked to them just last week about switching dates with a September patient but guess that won't be happening now.
Tried to call just now, but office is closed.
No guarantee he will take my insurance either. This really sucks. I've already BEEN waiting over a year! 😭
Guess it's a good thing I am consulting with a new surgeon.
My consulting experience with him at the Crane center has been somewhat lacking.
Same boat! I got the same email because I did a consultation several months ago. But I already decided against him anyways.
Mind if I ask why? (feel free to pm if you rather it discuss publicly)
I don't mind commenting here -- it was my first consult, and I left feeling worse than when I booked it, which I knew meant I couldn't move forward.
At one point I was asking about labia, and he commented kind of jokingly that other surgeons just create a "hole" and that's it (implying others don't construct labia well). It came across as very disparaging towards other surgeons and especially towards the trans women who seek treatment with them. And he didn't say anything the whole consultation to correct that impression. I also had some questions about low vagina placement and he said it wasn't something he could alter given his procedure, which obviously I don't blame him for. So it was a couple different things that made me back out.
That makes sense. I consulted with Valentina first and then Jun some months later.
When I consulted with Valentina and weight loss was mentioned she offhandedly suggest surgery. Even at my highest BMI I don't qualify for weight loss surgery! I was also never told I wouldn't get a surgery date until I lost the weight. So I talk to her, lost 35 lbs between talking to her and Jun. Got my documents in order and they wanted my doctor to fax proof of weight loss, nbd. 15 pounds til I am at that 35bmi they want. Then I was told I wouldn't get a surgical date til I lost the final 15 pounds. I totally lost all motivation because it went from, "real" to "they're just gonna keep moving the goal post." In my mind if your waitlist is 3 years out and you'll bump me up as soon as possible, ten at least give me my place in line and don't bump me til I get the weight.
I am learning a big lesson about results and how things appear on the outside for all of this. Yeah lots of happy patients here, but if he picks and chooses only the ones he thinks will look the best, then no shit his average 'looks better' than other surgeon. Sad life.
I'm sorry that happened to you, that sounds so discouraging. I'm not surprised given my interaction with him. Just ugh.
Yeah. 'laid back' in videos comes across as 'indifferent' when speaking to him live.
I am glad I finally decided to just schedule another surgeon. I am getting the strong impression he knew he was leaving and just didn't give a shit because he knew I'd be someone else's thing to deal with either way. Oh well. Hopefully Wednesday goes better.
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I mean he may have said it a bit crassly but he's not wrong, from the results I've seen he is far more consistent with constructing a good labia than nearly any other surgeon.
Yeah his results are great, and I don't doubt he knows everything there is to know about what he's doing. But I think my experience made me realize that respect and care and reassurance is really important to me in a surgeon, and he came across as a bit lacking there.
Lol. My surgery is scheduled for early 2025, and I found out it’s cancelled via Reddit. That’s crazy.
I think it's noteworthy that none of the surgeons who work for Crane stay there very long. I've heard that it's a toxic environment. He must not be treating them well or they wouldn't go to the trouble of leaving. It's probably a real headache for the doctor too. I'd bet it sets him back a year or so with startup costs and transferring patients. It must be bad.
Where's he going though?
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That's some terrible news. I feel for the people that already had dates scheduled. Like fuk.
I was just getting scheduled with him and he was booked up for well over a year. A lot of people are about to have to restart the process
That’s surely fits into the “we’ve got you covered” right? Sheesh, like it really seems like getting surgery this year has been a complete shitshow for so many people. Clinics shutting down, surgeons moving or leaving the field.
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Ya, considering who Dr. Jun is, it’s like umm…I don’t want another surgeon wtf
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🤣day has been made, thank you 💜
He didn't make any indication of this during my consult a couple of weeks ago but TBH I'm not that surprised. He seems like a highly competent professional surgeon who has worked hard at getting a difficult procedure right and the crane center seems like they have trouble communicating
Its a lot more complicated than that. Curtis Crane fled California for Texas due to numerous malpractice lawsuits. Jun is very overhyped with a cult of personality that distracts from what is really happening.
I think Jun have several malpractice lawsuits too, it's just so easy to sue in the USA.
Yes and no. California has very low caps on malpractice rewards which makes it very difficult to get a reputable lawyer to take these cases.
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So for an Update,
I did receive a email back from the one provided from Dr Jun,
"I recognize this decision is disruptive to you. This is why my plan is to get up and running as soon as I can to honor and prioritize existing consultations, surgeries, and follow-ups to the best of my ability."
I didn't want to quote the whole email but he says he wants to be very transparent and open with communication during this transition for him and his team.
So the future is looking a bit brighter again. I might have to wait a little longer but I know it'll be worth it. My date was 1/29/24 but honestly I've waited so long now a little more won't hurt.
When did you get it?
Last night around 8pm I saw it. I emailed earlier in the day as soon as I got the call and then email from crane center. I do have a surgery date with him that's affected so I'm wondering if that's maybe why I've heard back fairly quick.
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you will have to reschedule when he has his new practice. Its not known if hes joining an existing one or starting his own. Current surgeries will be canceled or moved to Dr Celtik after oct 1st
Its not known if hes joining an existing one or starting his own.
Which also means we'll have no idea what insurance plans he'll accept, and it all may be in limbo until Oct or later. I'm sure this could all somehow be worse, but I'm not sure how exactly, planet killing Comet maybe?
I just paid for my consult specifically for Jun. Can I ask for a refund or is that a lost cause:(
I'm sure they'll refund you if you ask.
Bruhhhh i kinda had decided to go to him 😭😭
Well it’s a good thing I got consults with multiple surgeons lined up … ugh this sucks
sorry for anyone this negatively impacts. I'm lucky I guess, I cancelled my May 2024 appointment a year ago.
Wowwwwww . Bullet dodged. Dude cancelled my November surgery on me when I went down there for an in-person evaluation a few months ago.
Holy shit, my surgery is scheduled on 9/11. I have no idea how people with newly cancelled dates are feeling right now.
So couple things...
- The plastics surgeon Min Jun was working with will still be there right? That's where most of the ascetics would come from. Dr Min Jun would be responsible for the inner working parts correct?
- Min Jun studied under Dr. Lee Zhao and Dr. Rachel Bluebond-Langner, where as Celtik studied under Drs. Miroslav Djordjevic, Rajveer Purohit, and Robert Valenzuela. Are they even comparable in technique?
Still reeling from this news i got the call today. I had my surgery scheduled for Dec 6th. I was also suppose to get FFS this month on the 19th, and that was also cancelled today because my insurance not only denied the procedures, but flat out removed the codes from their entire database, saying that my employer (the federal government) doesn't cover it, so it can't even be appealed.
The plastics surgeon Min Jun was working with will still be there right? That's where most of the ascetics would come from. Dr Min Jun would be responsible for the inner working parts correct?
If this is correct then it’s going to be very difficult for people who chose Dr Min Jun for his reputation.
Maybe it was the other surgeon that deserved the credit? And if it’s split between them are they both going to get worse when operating separately?
There is some misinformation here; Min Jun does the entire operation himself (with some assistance of course). He does the creation of the canal with robot plus the aesthetics which is why his operation time is around 6-7 hrs where as Bluebond and Zhao are doing the aesthetics and robot canal creation at the same time, which gets them around 2-3 hours range. So I don’t exactly know the “plastic surgeon” the user is talking about because Jun does both parts to my knowledge.
In regards to training it can be very hard but if I were to go off of Purhoit aesthetics since Celtik was trained by him, then expect very different aesthetic outcomes; but also Celtik does have really solid training and he seems like a great choice given that Mt. Sinai is high level fellows. I can’t say if they are “comparable in technique” because the truth is that it will come down to your own person aesthetic choices and style; which Purhoit and Bluebond/Zhao are different; not necessarily better or worse.
I was supposed to have surgery with him in March 2024 but honestly if he’s ok with just leaving his patients in the dark like this and not giving us priority scheduling at his new practice then I’m finding someone else. He does good work but I’m not giving my money to someone who doesn’t care about his patients.
He genuinely doesn’t, at all.
I don't see Dr. Min Jun picture now on the website. It is now the other surgeons picture that is posted on their website.
So I have/had a 1/29/24 surgery date and I called they said if I decide to stay they should be able to keep my surgery date with the same week.
I do know that Dr Alex Friedman has been the other person who doesn't get the glory but has been in every surgery with Dr Jun and will continue at crane center, so I feel a bit better with that about possibly staying but I also think Dr Jun's work is phenomenal. Mt. Sinai is also a amazing place for vaginoplasty and my #2 choice which is where Dr Celtik came from.
I think I might try to schedule a consult with Dr Celtik if possible and do a deeper dive into him.
I've of course emailed Dr Jun's link they provided and hoping to see something back in reasonable time. The way these things go I'm very nervous about missing my original week if I do choose to stay but I make that choice too late.
I met with Dr Celtik while post op with Mt Sinai with Dr Pirohit. I don’t know his skills as a surgeon but he was easy to talk to, very knowledgeable and took time to answer my questions and made sure I understood.
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Just had a consult three weeks ago and had letters submitted, got the same email this morning about 30 mins ago
no no no no.... now my insurance may not qualify
I am scheduled with Dr. Chris McClung in Ohio and I know he has openings around the start of 2024 if you're willing to travel. He is getting more famous in the midwest and has artistic results too.
comparable to dr min jun? Respectfully the results of mclung seemed terrible the last time i checked his results :/
Afaik he isn't on my insurance which is a shame because I am in the same city as him.
Does anyone have the contact email for Dr. Jun? I called last week but lost the paper I wrote it down on 😭
What the actual fuck this can’t be real I still don’t have an email I can’t wait any longer please tell me this is a troll
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Why have I not gotten an email yet
they are sending them out in batches it seems. first few emails came out friday, starting to see more today.
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It's real.
Can I get a discord invite please?
After his inappropriate behavior and lack of care for patient complications I am not surprised
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go thru my profile, I have a state medical board doing an investigation currently for my case
That’s just horrifying. I’m really sorry you’re going through all of this.
Uh…what.
Can I have an invite too??
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Hi can I also get an invite please? Thank you?
Could I have an invite to the server too?
I am having an anxiety attack at work after just reading this. Trying to breathe to calm myself down. Lord why?! 😫
Just got this today. I feel so bad for anyone whose probably lost out on their surgery because of this. I was going to have a consultation with him…and would have had to wait until November of next year. So I’m going to a different surgeon now. I would be so pissed and so devastated.
I know I’m late to this, but I haven’t heard anything from the Crane Center. Has there been an update with Dr. Min Jun? Any ideas if he’s decided on a private practice or anything?
Welp. Today is the big day . Where will Dr. Jun land and what will be announced? :)
Can I please be invited to the Jun dischord? I want my surgery done with him
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