Sorry to hear you’re not happy with your results. How long has it been since surgery?

I looked at your pics on here and on your profile.. I definitely see it and I'm sorry you're going through this.

I don't understand the people who say this is normal or that you need a psychologist.

There has to be a facial transition between the nose and forehead, nobody's face is just one long continuous slope, and they did a terrible job with your nose.

I don't really care what the explanation is for their Rhinoplasty technique. Rhinoplasties have been done for almost a century on both men and women in ways that are identical. Why would there be a need for this "new technique" for trans women specifically that obviously creates subpar results in comparison to other surgeons.

The goal is to feminize the nose, not smooth it out into oblivion.

It just doesn't look like they handled your face with care and consideration. I hope you get the results you want one day, and you are definitely justified in feeling angry about this.

This is the second post in as many months of FT doing this to someone. Ugh. I'm so sorry.

I once had an in-person consultation with them. I wasn't impressed. I needed to do my chin and jaw because they were square but they did not want to touch my face, so i moved on and did not press the matter. It was a giant waste of time. I also did not like their rhinoplasties, they seemed very odd and imprecise.

I see what you mean about the forehead and the transition to the nose, it's a bit flat. I'm not sure why you have a bit of sagging in the neck area since you did not have a mandible reduction; it's perplexing. From the profile view the chin seems a bit recessed and a tad flat. As for the nose, the bones need to be broken and brought in to narrow the "open roof deformity".

From what you're saying, the way they addressed the situation is not good at all, very unprofessional and without empathy.

Edit: in looking at your before pictures, I think the neck sagging is coming from the chin reduction/contour + the Adam's apple shave.

Edit2: do you have before and after CT-scans ?

I'm so sorry. Hope you will be able to find a solution somehow

They charged me for two nights in hospital, which is the correct amount for the procedures I had and the same for others having the same done, but discharged me after just one. When I brought it up they told me two things. Everyone else who was staying for two nights was a mistake and they should have only stayed for one like me. That the difference in price between one and two nights is 100 euro, take it or leave it. The original charge was around 3500.

So they lied about how long I should have stayed and then lied about the cost. To me the mark of professionalism is how you handle things when they go wrong. Own it and correct it. They did the very opposite.

Thank you OP. I will never go to them.

Hi, I went to FT 3 years or so ago.

I was/am unhappy with many elements of what happened. I found it crazy that all I ever saw was glowing gold standard reviews wherever I looked as that was far from my experience.

My nose is pretty awful, silly pointy barbie nose and collapsed to one side, trachea scar extremely prominant, orbitals insufficiently reduced, hair transplants super thin. What upsets me the most is my jaw is totally lumpy and has a big dent in one side of it, it's extremely asymettric and I pretty much find seeing myself in photos or a videofeed traumatising.

They fobbed me off completely and their psychologist made an excuuse and dipped from our one session.

It would be laugable if it wasn't so traumatising and life impacting. I still sometimes imagine their cheesy self assured smiles as they talked shit at me, and the surgeons response when they took the bandage off to have a look. "Oh well it'll get better in time" basically.

I've moved on with my life and can't afford to get a bunch more fixes done but I often wonder how I'd feel if I went somewhere else and wish I had.

I had a consult with them a few years ago and they made me feel really uncomfortable. Like, I’m older and I’m not the cute passable type so they treated me like I was a waste of their time. Then they sent me a “secret” estimate on how much it would cost and I had X days to pay them or that cost wouldn’t be guaranteed. It felt like they were trying to pressure me, like a used car dealership. No thanks.

All these surgeons are preying on trans woman

I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hope you can get a rhino revision in the future.. the rest seems upsetting and not what you paid for but still liveable. In the US business world we're constantly reminded of the amazing consumer protections in the EU as an impediment to how we can do business at parity globally, but these cases always make me second guess those notions.

Yes they definitely did. Wow

Feels a little refreshing to hear some more diversity in opinion about facialteam practices here. They have incredible marketing but a lot of the botch jobs seemingly disappear from forums or fail to be heard about. My surgeon I’ve ended up going with has done numerous revisions on FT clients. I consulted with them and they seemed nice but upon detailed research I chose to go elsewhere.

edit: OP it sounds like you’re planing on revisions and I hope you can get what you need. While it looks a lil funny and is not an acceptable surgery result, my personal opinion is you still look very feminine and pretty.

I'm so sorry to hear how they have mistreated you. While it's not to the same extent as you, I have had issues with their results too. The left half of my jaw is mostly numb, but some days it gets worse which means I never get used to it and it hasn't got any better in almost 2 years. I also experienced hair loss that hasn't recovered like they said it would. And my incision for my trachea shave is extremely visible, when they said it would be completely hidden.

We all deserve better.

OMG I'm so sorry this happened to you.. You can get revision thru reputable surgeon to correct I'm sure. And sue facial team if possible! 😡

It's so good you are sharing this so others can avoid them altogether..

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I know is already too late for OP, and I’m really sorry, yet I know u will get the revision u deserve. Just don’t let facial team near you ever again.

Aside that, I would like to gime some advice :c

I’m from Facial Team home country, Spain, and we know the deal around here… u don’t get that expensive/ extremely skilled surgeries here. You just don’t. If u value ur life, ofc. (Or if u have *enough money, and the right connections, which is pretty isolated)

There’s always exceptions, and if u are in a rough spot, we always have Social Security, yet… it is just that. Free.

The majority of the time, the procedures and results are abysmal, there is no names, u don’t have anyone at charge that u know, and there’s anyone for u to blame in case something goes wrong, only the state.

We know to never go to hospitals with any possession, because they will always be stolen.

We know to always bring someone with us if have to go to a medical institution, because nearly always you will be mocked and mistreated.

If someone here wants to really get out of a difficult illness (aka cancer ie), we know our chances here are really lower, but yeah, it’s (free) (tldr: it’s not, taxes here are ridiculous, and if u are freelance u have to pay up to 60% of ur income in taxes)

FacialTeam has really bad reputation around here, and only those unaware enough would be willing to assist its clinic.

I’m sorry, but please, this situation is going nuts, and ppl should know that Spain is no place for such surgeries, if it is through the national healthcare, they are intangible, if they are not, they are just protected from the very roots of our legal system (although if u are rich maybe u have some chance after….years)

There are good professionals too, ofc, but do not count on having that luck when u are risking that much, please. Not when they are not even cheap, they are up there with DB or Jumaly.

I’m sorry OP, and I hope u get the solution u deserve.

I was contemplating going with them and would have by now but for the cost but after seeing this there is no way im using them.

I'm sorry you have gone through this and hope you can get the issues resolved.

Thank you so much for posting. Its only truthful accounts like this that will improve healthcare for us. Im no stranger to having bad results and i know it's hard to post these issues so thank you again x

There is a difference between botched and poor results. It seems you had a bad job, but it's not so that you're disfigured and have functional issues. Are you considering revision?

So sorry to hear about your experience. I think you look amazing and cis but if you are not happy then go for it. Thanks for sharing

I dont know if this makes you feel any better but you look so beautiful!! I am so sorry about your experience

When you said botched I expected it to look a lot worse.

Tbh I've been aware that there are other people like DR. Mfo who seem much better ever since I did my first web search.

Was it a cheaper option?

So sorry to hear this I’m Also planning a revision, they seem to have a one size fits all approach and don’t look at any other ways of feminising the face

if you want to fix your nose, Dr. Blass Garcia is a good option.

I can't comment on the rest but I don't think the tracheal shave is bad at all, and I would caution you against trying to mess with it further. Everyone will end up with a small bump if you are holding your neck up like that (even cis women have this, and definitely fully passing trans women with trach shaves) - if you try to make it smaller you are really risking damaging your vocal cords, which will affect your life really significantly.

If you can't see a bump while your head is at a normal angle, that is The Goal, anything more than that is really really risky. I honestly think people should only go to VFS surgeons for trach shaves because the consequences of having them go wrong can be really bad

In my opinion they've just made you look Spanish. But as you can't see the scarring, is it really botched job?

I guess I'm having a hard time seeing what got messed up. Your side profile looks femme as fuck.

Sister I think you should talk this through with a good psychologist, many people go through difficulty with their mental health after FFS. Please be very gentle with yourself and take care of yourself. You are very beautiful. If you have a doctor that can refer you for scans of your bone structure, that might help you see exactly what could be the issue and needs to be fixed.

Looks fine to me

I don't see anything wrong? You look cis. These are brainworms.

Surgery is always a crap shot and you have to know that before deciding to have the surgery. There is no guarantee that the surgery will make anyone look better and sometimes it makes people look dramatically worse and it happens even with the best surgeons. Don't have surgery unless you are willing to accept the risks, often it turns out great, sometimes little change, and other times, not very often but not rare, much worse.

I am not seeing anything “botched” here. Your profile looks very feminine. Any minor asymmetry is normal to find in any face.

Then, this raises the question: who is the best surgeon that has a good track record? Seems like there aren’t any from what I can gather here.

Also, reddit is known to be a cesspool that seems to attract a lot of negative reviews (<1-2% “ers”) in stark contrast to the actual amount of surgeries being done having positive reviews (>98% “ers”).

All in all, there needs to be more concrete evidence to substantiate your claim. Perhaps other people can attest this. Discouraging others to get the surgeries can just be as harmful and, if not, misleading and affect peoples’ decision-making contemplations.

That being said, you look very feminine already. Hope you get the help you need to feel content.