Yah, that’s extremely rude and insensitive. I’d go to Lee.

Yeah, I'm dark skinned black and I have a feeling he leans towards a white, upper class demographic (the Kardashian types), so I'm not sure about consulting with him. They seemed really nice on the phone but of course - I have a voice and name people stereotype as "white" so..

Mardirossian is incredible, never have I ever had a surgeon tell me without me even having to ask first "we'll keep the features of your nose" until Mardi. I'm just peeved at how dirty they did me with scheduling a date (said they had openings in Sept, I said cool let me pay the deposit, and they refused to get back to me with an answer until dates moved back to mid 2025)

Also wow $70,000 up front wasn't an issue? Where do you work 😮

DB was my first choice, but I wound up having a consult with Dr. Mardirossian and I just really felt comfortable with him. My FFS is upcoming in December with him and I cancelled my consult with DB.

I had a friend who had surgery with DB, you're not missing out on his "brilliance" by going to someone else.

I’m white but I had a similar bad experience. DB is entitled and arrogant. He does good work but that isn’t enough when his office is so unpleasant to work with, too. I actively felt talked down to and embarrassed.

I ended up going with Tommy Liu for FFS (I’m recovering right now!) and I know he does some Asian-focused facial techniques. I’d check him out! Whoever you choose, you deserve someone who respects you and treats you like a human <3

I have a consultation with him in a couple weeks, I’ve heard almost nothing but good things about him before, and now to see this and all the complaints in the comments is quite disturbing.

Other than that, he was regarded as the king of uncanny valley.

Similar experience with DB team and unable to recommend to any PoC. They seem to be really interested in fees for initial consultation and it’s all downhill there ! Shocking

just sharing my experiences as a desi girl who went to him

• the arrogant behaviour doesn’t surprise me. the micro aggressions are wild, nothing like that happened to me, but that really sucks.

• i don’t necessarily agree with not recommending him for poc, bc he’s still probably one of the surgeons with the most experience with poc and has lots of detailed articles for different ethnicities on his site. but this is a case of “who’s gonna do it better?” bc most surgeons will do a cookie cutter white girl. I def appreciate the word of caution though, everyone should approach these surgeons with caution and that’s 100x true for woc

• idk how to comment on my own surgery bc I still have dysphoria and brainworms and I kinda regret how my nose turned out. but everyone else unanimously says I turned out great and not whitewashed so 🤷🏽‍♀️

Dr Mardi will never push you into stuff you don't want and gallina wont imply you dont have the cash. Set up your consultation. Im so sorry that happened. Dr Mardi is very smart and speaks quite a few languages. He gets good results too.

I’ve heard awful things about him.. I know people who are seeing him and said he comes across as an entitled asshole. I’m so sorry you had this experience him :(

Dr Laura Garcia at Henry ford in Detroit is an expert in multi ethnic techniques. She presents on it all over the world. She’s also phenomenal and did my surgery. If you’re in a general proximity I recommend her strongly.

I can't recommend Mardirossian like a lot of people on here. It was very important to me things looked natural and authentic when I went to him a few years ago. He over resected my jaw angle leaving a concavity in the side of the face, left large bony steps with the genioplasty when I had expressed for him to be conservative and liking the definition I had in my lower face. He has a very distinct style rhinoplasty that at times looks worked on in some patients.

He was very nice and said all the right things preoperatively to make me feel confident and like my identity would be respected, but that didn't line up with the end result. Look through his IG carefully as he almost never provides a full sense of the his outcomes (front, side profile, 3/4 view, hair back), and don't get caught up in the glammed up selfie photos he shares. He has a lot of great results, but you can also see a lot inconsistency and some overdone unnatural outcomes.

I don’t know nothing about him, but this sounds absolutely not acceptable and I would just go somewhere else

holy shit, I'm glad I'm reading these, I'm white but not wealthy and was planning on getting a consult w/ DB, even reading his book. Now I'm worried I shouldn't bother and go with someone else.

This is good to know, thank you for reporting this, I’m sorry you went through that. I wanted to get a consult with DB but hearing this and some of the comments, especially given they need many months just for a consult, will write them off in my book.

I would caution against Lee, I also had a bad virtual consult with him too, he was pretty arrogant and just suggested I do everything (TS, Type III, cheek implants, brow lift, hairline advancement, rhinoplasty) without much in the way of any sort of personalised idea of what I’ll look like. I just went along with it (mostly bc I was pretty green and he was my first) but I wasn’t that enamoured by him.

I also had a consult with Mardirossian. Totally recommend. He’s awesome, super friendly and he has a quiet confidence that I really jibed with. He explains what he does and did a 3D CT scan of my skull. He thinks that I have a lot of bossing and he thinks I would really benefit from a full Type III as well so hearing it twice makes me think it may be what I need?

Toby Mayer also gave me good vibes. He does work with insurance which I am hoping will cover some of it, but the main thing is he seems to think I don’t need a Type III at all or cheek implants so he seemed much willing to personalise my FFS so he may be a good option for you too!

Mardorossian is ths man

I'm really glad I went with DB. He's the most skilled FFS surgeon on the planet, and I found him to be an extremely kind person. The renders he provides are deliberately made to set expectations lower than what is likely to result, and he makes that as clear as he can during the consult.

I'm thinking of going to Lee or Mardirossian instead

I went to Lee. Highly recommend. He's very qualified, and he respects patients wishes rather than just going for his ideal vision.

You should look into Dr. Rahul Seth at Golden State Plastic Surgery, he doesn't have any trouble with ethnic faces (I don't know if this is to do with his being non-white himself or if it's just because he's good at what he does) and he was very polite, considerate, helpful and attentive when I saw him. He has opinions of course but he defers to the patient's wishes where applicable. Also you can look up examples of his work online. https://www.goldenstatedermatology.com/plasticsurgery/dr-seths-ffs-fms-overview/

I would NOT recommend deschamps and I am white. arrogant is putting things nicely. having surgery with him was the worst decision of my life. don’t get me started on how unprofessional his staff is! I cannot go into more detail as I do not want to get sued (yes he is like that) but I will close with do your research and buyer beware…

I've seen good and bad results from DB. I wouldn't personally recommend him currently.

He moved up to 5 surgeries a week last year, and it's pretty clear he doesn't have enough time to really plan out the surgeries for his patients. He doesn't even do followups.

So yeah - he has the skill, but he doesn't really seem to give a shit anymore.

I remember one time I asked somewhere about DB and ethnic faces. One of his white patients part of that group told me to look elsewhere because of his largely Caucasian clientele

Btw, thank you for sharing. I’m also south Asian and have been wondering about DB tbh. Has he shown you a gallery of patients post op? If so, what did you observe?

Seems like everyone is really singing the praises of Dr. Mardirossian here? First I have heard of them, where are they located?

An FTM committed suicide after getting surgery from him due to how he was treated by him and because he abandoned him when he had complications. He was also transphobic to him.

I had a consultation with Dr. mardirossian he wad going to fix my face from another surgeon that messed my face up and recommended other procedures that I needed but never had, after what I went through physically and mentally from the other surgeon that damaged my face I was nervous to talk to other surgeon's from the way I was treated and my horrible results, dr mardirossian treated me with dignity and was very respectful to me and he earned my trust. for my surgery, but after all of that with Dr mardirossian Galina would not even consider sending the information to my insurance company to get my FFS approved and I told her that they were going to approve my surgery and there going to get there money I even sent a letter from my insurance company and they my insurance also contactethe privd her saying that they would approve my FFS and pay them what they wanted but Galina still would not exept my insurance. I was devastated. so I am still living with my messed up face. but they were very nice but that was it. it is so sad that it is all about the money with most of the private FFS surgeon's.

Bad reason to not go with DB.