Tips for doing surgeries internationally

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u/[deleted]
Fri Jan 24 16:26:12 2020 UTC
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u/[deleted]
Fri Jan 24 19:50:48 2020 UTC
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Fri Jan 24 21:18:36 2020 UTC
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It’s not really for rich people.. Global entry and battery banks are something a vast majority of citizens have.... especially for people that have to travel for work... but yeah I did start off by saying I’m from the U.S 🤷‍♀️

Also I don’t agree with checking a box saying you need assistance unless you actually do... by the time you leave most people can walk by themselves.... I don’t feel like it’s morally right using that service

Fri Jan 24 22:11:30 2020 UTC
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Fri Jan 24 22:16:27 2020 UTC
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Fri Jan 24 23:14:02 2020 UTC
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I know, I used to be privately health insured and now am on National Health Insurance. It is so appaling due to the Dr shortage here (brain drain lots emigrating). I even can't get a dermatologist appt under 3 months waiting list, so I am paying a private one 50+ Euros to check for skin cancer.

u/[deleted]
Fri Jan 24 17:42:41 2020 UTC
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Fri Jan 24 18:19:26 2020 UTC
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  1. ⁠You should check with the airlines if you're allowed to charge your devices onboard. Most flights I've been on (across EU) didn't allow charging onboard and didn't allow powerbanks onboard larger than 10,000mAh (which is what I exactly have).

Idk about powerbank policies, mine is 10,000mAh which I didn’t have a problem with and let me charge my switch and phone to full 3/4 times which lasted the entire flight and more

  1. ⁠No additions, but would like to hear about what kind of improvements you get if you pay for business class compared to standard/economy.

Business class tickets are definitely worth it for international tickets on the flight back IMHO. Depending on the airline If it’s more then 10+ hours you’re getting a seat that reclines fully into a bed, quick service, uncramped access to the bathroom if you need it. I also know most surgeons do recommend business or first class tickets when traveling home after surgery. It’s possible to do standard..... but it’s gonna be a hellish 10+ hour flight

  1. ⁠Do you have any sources on that? I've read many stories and people could watch Netflix in Thailand just fine. It's not like China for example.

I did a consult in Thailand last summer for SRS. Netflix worked but not all the shows that were available in the U.S worked in Thailand... I think it’s licensing.. Netflix distributes shows based on geographic location.

When I went to Spain for FFS pandora didn’t work... that’s actually what made me finally switch to Spotify

  1. ⁠Usually WiFi is sufficient these days in the era of VOIP communication (Discord, WhatsApp etc) but some services like Food Panda require you to have local number (that's what I've heard at least, correct me if i'm wrong)

Yeah WiFi is good.. but personally I’d want the ability to call someone from anywhere if I’m in a country I’ve never been in before. I bought a Temporary SIM card in Thailand. It was $10 USD for a week of full LTE/3G unlimited data. I’m not sure about Spain since I did an international plan for that and it wasn’t worth it at all.. it cost me like $300 for 10GB of data and then it was 20$ per 1GB

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u/HiddenStill
Fri Jan 24 23:03:08 2020 UTC
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Who are you seeing in Thailand?

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Fri Jan 24 23:09:20 2020 UTC
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Chett

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Fri Jan 24 23:18:24 2020 UTC
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There’s a lot of information about him in the wiki. The Suporn pdf might be helpful in respect to the common parts.

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u/SuitableTest
Fri Jan 24 23:09:32 2020 UTC
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Thanks for the information 😊 I looked up the Kamol Clinic in Thailand in the internet. I want Top Surgery and it takes years where I live. Also the clinic doesn't require any approval letters (F64. 0 diagnosis) for Top surgery. They quote a price of 4000 USD which I am saving up for. Do you know if the Kamol clinic is good? Which one are you having GCS at if I may ask?

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Sat Jan 25 01:40:31 2020 UTC
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Yeah I went over to Thailand last summer and consulted with a bunch of the major SRS surgeons like Suporn, Chett, Kamol ect.

I don’t want discourage you... but tbh out of everyone I saw Kamol was the worst consult... this wasn’t for top surgery though.. it was only for GRS

The doctor was rude the entire time... he refused to answer some of my questions. I asked to see some post-op results and he didn’t let me see them. He also said my depth would only be 3inches and I wanted more.

They also use the penile inversion method... which wasn’t what I was interested in.. as the entire reason Thailand was at the top of my list was the non-penile inversion..

Chettewut gave the best consultation, he let me see results and I felt like he was very knowledgeable. So I’m going with him. Suporn and his team had the next best consult... but IMO the location is kind of annoying. With Chett you’ll be in Bangkok.. but Suporns clinic is an hour outside of Bangkok in a small town

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Sat Jan 25 01:56:14 2020 UTC
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Thanks so much for the Infos. Didn't a trans woman on Reddit post that Suporn is retiring? The pull down method is the best, plus more depth. I will check out Chettewut, Kamol did have a few before and after pics of Top surgery but I am terrified of it getting botched. Although anything down below is way more serious. When I inherit I will emigrate to Thailand or a transgender town in California lol.

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Sat Jan 25 13:59:19 2020 UTC
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He also said my depth would only be 3inches and I wanted more.

They offer 3 techniques : PI, full graft and colon methods. Did you specify that you would like the full graft method ?

Sorry to hear you didn't have a good experience with them.

Sun Jan 26 00:46:48 2020 UTC
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Sun Jan 26 02:28:24 2020 UTC
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Both the consultations were good, and they both offered a good amount of depth and aesthetics that the NPI method is known for.

Suporn went into more detail but he said that his college Dr.Banks or his team would be the one doing the surgery. With Chett he said he would be doing it.

Another reason is the location, Suporns clinic is in Chronobi... which is ok.. but it’s got a small town vibe so entertainment and food choices won’t be fantastic

Chett is located in downtown Bangkok... so you’ve got the entire city to keep you busy + pretty much any kind of food you could want

There definitely both good options though, but IMHO as far as post-op recovery I think Chett is a bit better

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Sun Jan 26 03:25:25 2020 UTC
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I don’t think you should be doing anything after surgery, especially not getting out into Bangkok. You risk hurting yourself.

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Sun Jan 26 08:03:25 2020 UTC
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Yeah for sure, I think the main benefits I was talking about was mostly down to food choices. I think there’s only a couple of restaurants and pizza place near the Suporn clinic. Chett has better variety

Also if you’re traveling with someone then they’ll prob have a better time in Bangkok then chronbri

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Sun Jan 26 08:12:15 2020 UTC
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What did you think of the hospitals they use?

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Sun Jan 26 09:09:09 2020 UTC
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I didn’t get to see the hospital that Suporn uses, they showed me some pictures though and it looked good.

Chett does it directly in the clinic.. and I also wasn’t allowed inside the room they do it in.. but I did peak into it when I walked by and it looked modern and nice.

It’s much smaller though, I think Suporn does it in a fairly large hospital with a lot more staff members

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Tue Jan 28 08:19:59 2020 UTC
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Dod you consult with PAI?

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Tue Jan 28 10:06:22 2020 UTC
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I did yeah, they were really informative and gave very good information, prob the 3rd best consult I had and much better then Kamol.

But they said they could only really do a version of PI and my depth would only be at most 4” but most likely 3.

I’m doing SRS pretty late into my transition. I’ve been on HRT for more then 8 years and experienced a lot of shrinkage.

I want decent depth and I think my only option at this point is non-penile inversion.

If I had done SRS earlier then I prob would have gone with the standard PI... the longer you wait the harder it gets to end up with decent depth

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Tue Jan 28 16:02:41 2020 UTC
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I would consider colo if I were in your position.

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Tue Jan 28 19:30:40 2020 UTC
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I thought about it, but I’ve heard stories about constant wetness in the neovagina and issues with smell? I also have a pretty bad history of colon cancer in my family so anything to do with the colon is kind of risky for me :/

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Tue Jan 28 19:37:18 2020 UTC
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Those stories are wrong. The smell goes away after a short while. Wetness can be an issue with PPT as well. But if you have colon cancer in your family then I would definitely count colo out and take it off the table. Wittenberg does PPT after PI complications. Maybe she would give it to you because of your lack of material to work with? There's Ting as well but I just don't know about his history. Whatever you do, good luck!

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u/cybelechild
Sat Jan 25 08:04:05 2020 UTC
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some countries like Thailand don’t have access to Netflix or or Spotify

I had access to both from my computer last year.

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Sat Jan 25 08:13:50 2020 UTC
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Did you have access to all the shows and music available in the U.S?

It’s not that it won’t be available, it’s that licensing depends on geographic location. EG: Netflix is the U.S distributor for a lot of shows, but in another country, it’s common for another network to be the main distributor because Netflix didn’t get the licensing deal for that specific location

If someone is listening to certain music or watching a show/movie in one country, when they switch to a different country there’s a chance it might not be available... hence why I’d recommend just downloading it

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Sat Jan 25 08:27:28 2020 UTC
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No idea. I'm not from the US.

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u/jlynne58
Tue Jan 28 16:03:45 2020 UTC
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How about colo?