My experience with Dr. Jacob Kuperstock (Consider him, he's going to be a great offering for a lot of people!)

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u/ErinInTheMorning
Tue Nov 24 01:54:20 2020 UTC
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(24 comments)

**Update: I will edit to keep my most recent before/after picture on top.

Before (45 days pre surgery)/After (70 days post surgery) **

Hey y'all!

So about a year ago, I got word that Dr. Spiegel's newest trainee was establishing his own practice... and the best thing about it? He was moving to MY AREA! Washington DC! Dr Jacob Kuperstock.

Also, tldr pics are at the end. I'm only 7 days out.

Why is this a big deal?

Well, for the love or hate that Dr. Spiegel gets, his students consistently end up being some of the best facial feminization surgeons in the United States. Jumaily, Keojampa and Madirossen all are surgeons who went through the Spiegel center. All of them put out some of the highest quality work with long waitlists and expensive deposits.

The best thing about Dr K? His waitlist is short because he's relatively unknown right now, and his deposit for me was only $1000!!!!

So, I pulled the trigger. I am only 7 days out of recovery so I'll post some pics but for now I'll describe my experience.

My first consultation was over video because it was in the middle of COVID. From what I understand, if you saw him in person when that was more okay during the COVID lull, he walks you through with a mirror and has you point at areas of your face that make you feel dysphoric. For me, though, we did it over video chat.

His demeanor is very upbeat and he makes you just feel good talking to him. He's got a funny and lighthearted personality, but he also clearly has an eye for what can be changed and helped steer me entirely in the right direction as I had NO idea what I wanted.

He and I decided to go with scalp advancement, orbital contouring, brow lift, rhinoplasty, cheek implants, mandible contouring, and lip lift. So, the works!

Here's where the real amazing thing happened. HE GOT IT APPROVED THROUGH MY INSURANCE! Mind you, you're going to have to do some of your own legwork on this but he doesn't just entirely throw you out to the wolves. He was with me every step of the way in the process and helped get my coverage requirements. I got my two letters from psych professionals that wrote about it being medically necessary, and even though my insurance generally judges it as cosmetic, they approved it. Please note: this is VERY YMMV. I'd say only 10-20% of plans out there have a gray area for FFS. But it's worth checking your plan. Mine said that "FFS is generally considered cosmetic but under certain circumstances may be judged medically necessary."

We ended up scheduling 2 surgeries. One inpatient to put in cheek implants, and then another a month and a half later to do the whole shebang.

The cheek implants I did under local anasthetic. It really wasn't that bad. Recovery was mild, and I loved my final results on my cheek implants. You can see a before and after here:

Before and after the first surgery (Cheek implants)

I was extremely happy with them, but obviously had a lot more that I wanted done and so I looked forward to the big surgery. I had mild complications (just numbness on my left upper lip, which lasted 2-3 weeks).

Going into the big surgery, he warned me that I may have significant chin numbness and scalp numbness, and I told him I was a little scared of the chin/lip numbness and weakness but that I was going to go through with it. It was still my biggest fear.

On surgery day, I was well prepared and had the surgery in Fairfax Surgical Center, though he also operates out of INOVA. Fairfax surgical center was very good with treating me well, and the nurses seemed to know how to interact with trans patients. I don't have much to say about the actual surgery - I was out for 7 hours, but when I came to, I had quite a bit of nausea/vomiting.

I left a few hours later with my face/head very tightly wrapped. This wrapping the first two days was probably the most uncomfortable thing about the whole ordeal. My eyes swelled shut and it was the cause of a significant portion of my pain. There was an issue with obtaining pain medicine though and I remember Dr. Kuperstock loudly and angerly advocating for me to the pharmacy which they ultimately complied with. That won him points in my book too.

The first two days were honestly some of the most pain I've ever been in in my life. But it was very much worth it. When I got to his office on the 2 day follow up, I was practically blind because of the wrapping and the swelling, but when he took it off the swelling whooooshed away and I could see again.

My swelling consistently went down over the next few days, as did the pain. The reason he puts the tight wrap is to prevent hematomas, and sure enough, I have absolutely no hematoma.

As for my lip and chin... ZERO NUMBNESS! I was thrilled. He told me he was able to locate the nerves and made sure they stayed in tact. Mental nerve damage was one of my biggest fears and he managed to both be aggressive with my jaw and yet spare me the numbness. I was so so so happy with him about htat.

Pics...

Before/After Cheek Implants 45 days before the big surgery

Front pre-surgery and pre cheek implants

Side pre-surgery and pre cheek implants

24h after surgery

48h after surgery

72h after surgery

4 days after surgery

5 days after surgery

7 days post surgery

12 days post surgery

36 days post surgery

70 days post surgery

Obviously I still have a LOT of healing to do, and I have a lot of swelling still at 7 days. But I can see where this is going to head and I am so, so happy with my decision. Give Dr. Kuperstock a thought for facial feminization, you can likely save money and get with someone who is likely going to be one of the greats in the coming years with packed waitlists.

all 24 comments



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u/SenioritaKiwi
Tue Nov 24 04:06:55 2020 UTC
(0 children)

OH MY GOSH. ONLY 1 WEEK OUT AND YOU LOOK AMAZING!

Kuperstock is the real deal.

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u/ErinInTheMorning
OP
Tue Nov 24 01:59:31 2020 UTC
(1 child)

/u/HiddenStill Just so that I can get this on his wiki :)

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Wed Nov 25 00:57:12 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Done, thanks.

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u/KiraDubb
Sun Jul 3 14:46:22 2022 UTC
(1 child)

He definitely not recommended by me -someone who has paid him around 30k to literally hardly do a thing. The only real thing he did was cause my nose to look absolutely horrendous. I have perminent nostril flair and that is the least of my issues with him. He also forgets promises made and he will act like he never said things he did. Not to mention putting in my cheek implants asummetrical. He will never do a thing to fix it unless you want to pay more and take a chance. If you're beautiful already you'll look great but if not his approach is hardly worth it in my opinion.

My recommendation is to seek elsewhere if you know what's good for you. Don't end up like me.

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Mon Feb 19 20:02:48 2024 UTC
(0 children)

I had a very disorganized experience with his office. They called me three times the morning of the teleappointment to ask if I could reschedule to Right Now. When the appointment came, I realized halfway through that there were three other people in the room that he didn't tell me were there. When I scheduled the consult, they said the appointment would cost $100 but then billed me $422. When I called to ask, they knocked it down to $170 but still, what the fuck. Lots of red flags for me, I don't think I'll go with him

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u/ErinInTheMorning
OP
Tue Nov 24 02:59:06 2020 UTC
(1 child)

One other thing I forgot to add, he got rid of a lot of my temple recessions!

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Mon Jun 6 20:27:31 2022 UTC
(0 children)

ake you feel dysphoric. For me, though, we did it over video chat.

how'd he get rid of temple recessions? I gotta know...

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u/Klafka612
Tue Nov 24 02:44:12 2020 UTC
(9 children)

Sounds like you had a very good experience!

Fyi while you should pretty much unilaterally expect at least temporary numbness with a sliding genioplasty as you have to stretch the mental nerve to perform the osteotomy that may not be the case if you are doing contouring as you don't have to stretch the mental nerve to reach it I believe.

I'm curious if he did ct or cephalometric x-ray prior to surgery or not ?

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OP
Tue Nov 24 02:57:25 2020 UTC
(8 children)

I had my chin brought down pretty heavily. I have no idea how I didn’t get numbness, he was adamant that what he was doing would be very likely to cause it.

I did not get a Ct or Ceohalometric x-ray. I didn’t ask for one, but he seems like he would if you requested it.

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Thu Nov 26 21:44:49 2020 UTC
(2 children)

Hi,

Per Dr. Kuperstock's orders, I had a CT scan of my neck yesterday in preparation for forehead contouring and a revision of my jaw surgery formally done by another surgeon. I will have surgery with Dr. Kuperstock on January 27, 2021.

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Fri Nov 27 00:29:52 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Cooool! Good info

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OP
Thu Nov 26 23:02:42 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Good to know, tagging /u/Klafka612

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Tue Nov 24 03:01:39 2020 UTC
(3 children)

I see but you didn't get a genioplasty to be clear right ? Or did you?

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OP
Tue Nov 24 03:12:33 2020 UTC
(2 children)

I don’t know and I’m not sure I did. He said that he brought my chin up and took care of my two prominent chin points but looking at my medical bill genioplasty isn’t on there, just mandible contouring. I can tell you my chin definitely had some soreness! 😅 perhaps though the size of my chin was brought down more through general contouring. Idk!

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Tue Nov 24 03:19:16 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Aah so chin points ? Maybe are your gonial angles ? The chin specifically is the part of the mandible ( lower jaw bone ) that is below the lower lip. They are commonly cut off to create a "softer" jaw which is more traditionally considered feminine.

Regardless, It's excellent that it turned out so well for you!

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OP
Tue Nov 24 03:42:14 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Same here!!! I can’t wait to see the finished results a month or two from now.

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u/mxjf
Mon Jan 3 11:17:02 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I'm having surgery with him later this month and asked him about the CT. He said he doesn't require it but if you want one he can get it put in for you. (I opted in for it because I want a skull CT scan to 3D print)

u/[deleted]
Fri Nov 27 13:17:02 2020 UTC
(2 children)

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OP
Fri Nov 27 15:24:07 2020 UTC
(1 child)

That would definitely be something to ask him. For me I just did jaw contouring. If Spiegel and his trainees do it, I can’t imagine Kuperstock would not do it as he’s trained in the same skills.

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Fri Nov 27 15:31:05 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Hi Erin,

I will ask Kuperstock. From also reading Spiegel's website, I'm under the impression that Spiegel greatly prefers using chin implants for sliding genioplasty.

I will have jaw contouring too with Kuperstock.

Hope you are recovering well!

u/[deleted]
Fri Mar 26 17:02:05 2021 UTC
(3 children)

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OP
Fri Mar 26 17:20:56 2021 UTC
(2 children)

My hiarline scar is now not visible much at all. Kupe did a couple microneedling sessions and they REALLY helped. Kupe also has a method where hair grows through the scar, which has worked for me.

Mon Mar 29 16:43:50 2021 UTC
(1 child)

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OP
Mon Mar 29 23:54:39 2021 UTC
(0 children)

I'm currently helping a Kupe patient recover :) Its awesome.

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u/RevolutionaryCook167
Tue Nov 9 00:34:46 2021 UTC
(2 children)

Hi there! I saw that you got your insurance to approve the surgery. If you don't mind answering, which insurance are you using? I am currently shopping for insurance in VA and I am having a hard time figuring out which insurances will cover FFS and GRS.

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OP
Tue Nov 9 01:27:22 2021 UTC
(1 child)

Carefirst BCBS if you can get it. But you may have to live in DC or the MD side to get it.

1
Tue Nov 9 02:47:16 2021 UTC
(0 children)

Thank you for the response!