Time in surgery MtF Pi Vaginoplasty ?

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u/Icy-Yogurt-Leah
Fri May 27 18:57:33 2022 UTC
(47 comments)

According to my hospital records the time between me getting sedated and transferred to recovery was 75 minutes.

Is this a normal time for the operation ? I was told it normally takes around two hours.

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u/Novalara
Fri May 27 20:05:21 2022 UTC
(1 child)

I had that kind of surgery and I was don ine a little over 6h. The surgeon said that less that 6h is not enough time to do everything. The PPT version of the surgery was around 9h.

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OP
Fri May 27 20:11:47 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Omg seriously !

FML why the hell did I let him do it 🥺

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u/RainbowDashieeee
Fri May 27 19:06:56 2022 UTC
(15 children)

First surgery i was going to be sedated 7 am and was awake in my room 4 pm

Second surgery i was going to be sedated 9 am and was awake in my room 4 pm

I know that it's 1 hour from the time they brought me to the room the the actual first cut, but donw know how long I was in this middle state of already out of surgery but not awake

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OP
Fri May 27 20:00:08 2022 UTC
(6 children)

Thanks Luna. Your result looks a lot better than mine even before your revision.

I have the same issue you had with it looking like testicles but my scarring is horrific in comparison. Huge purple V at 6 months it's disgusting.

I can remember going under just before 9:30 and seeing the clock in recovery at 10:50. From what you said it looks like mine was just rushed. I'm not surprised it looks crap 😥

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Fri May 27 20:04:21 2022 UTC
(1 child)

Might be rushed

For revision i got told the surgery duration is 1-3 hours but for me it would most likely be 3-4 hours due to having more to do

🫂 Maybe they can change stuff in revision if you wanna do it

What helped me with scarring was maybe also using E3 creme there which is the default for dilation and scarring from the surgeon team i was with

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OP
Fri May 27 20:33:50 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Tbh I'm scared of letting him lose on me again and terrified that I will end up in the same pain as the first time. Had quite a traumatic time while there :(

I have asked the hospital if someone else can fix it but not had anything official back yet. Not even sure if I could physically walk into the hospital again let alone walk to the anesthetist area, lay on that bed and ... Nope I'm crying again just thinking about it.

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Fri May 27 20:06:21 2022 UTC
(3 children)

Don't judge how it looks for 6 to 12 months. There is a lot of swelling and healing which will take place.

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OP
Fri May 27 20:09:37 2022 UTC
(2 children)

I'm 6 months post op.

It still looks shit and the scarring is 10mm wide, purple and getting bigger.

Will find a pic if you are not squeamish.

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Fri May 27 21:08:53 2022 UTC
(1 child)

I am mtf and a doctor not sqeamish at all. Who was your surgeon?

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OP
Fri May 27 21:19:25 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Sent you a dm

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Sat May 28 00:48:42 2022 UTC
(7 children)

Do you realize that when you have surgery they create surgeons note that document and timestamp the everything. Some patient portals will make these available by default and others withhold them as part of your medical record.

These notes will contain a step by step accounting of the surgery from Anesthesia and innovation to every single medication they used along the way. It should contains verbal description of what the surgeon did and observed and if any unexpected issues hoped up and how they were handled.

I suggest you check your online medical account for these documents. If they aren't there you can file a request for these records. When you make the request make sure you are specific about what records you want.

Now, I don't know what your state of mind is on the outcome you describe, but you should be aware that in most surgery releases, there are clauses that are triggered that allow the provider to withhold records if you give them any reason to believe the request is for litigation purposes. It's best to remain cool calm and collected when seeking your medical records in general.

Other than that, all this is pretty standard record keeping.

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OP
Sat May 28 05:51:58 2022 UTC
(3 children)

I have the (almost) complete records clearly stating the time into and out of surgery and the anesthetist logs ect. Plus about 200 pages of other stuff involving my time there. It's a legal right to all this information in my country.

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Sat May 28 06:29:07 2022 UTC
(2 children)

Is there any thing that looks odd in the documentation other than the overall time? I agree that 70 minutes sounds more like a vulvaplasty. My grs was over 6 hours, but I was only the surgeon's 6th or 7th practice victim, so the surgery time didn't surprise me.

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OP
Sat May 28 08:36:10 2022 UTC
(1 child)

Nothing that I can see but the writing is difficult to understand as I don't know the names of the drugs or abbreviations etc.

Heart rate was 130 when I went under then about 100 all through apart from half way in where it dropped and they administered something starting with f.

Think it says I was given adrenalin in recovery but I could be misreading it. What I do know is that I was wide awake at 1050 talking to the recovery nurse the whole time including when I was pushed back to my room. I was with it enough to use my phone and ask my partner to come in. I thought I would have been completely out of it for longer. (Had a nerve block so was paralyzed and couldn't feel anything below the waist so not in any pain at that point).

5
Sat May 28 13:45:57 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I'm certainly not qualified to comment on any of that, but it does provide you with something to work with if you could find another physician or surgeon to review.

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Sat May 28 05:52:06 2022 UTC
(2 children)

Online medical account, ehm I'm in Germany that's something we don't have 😅

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OP
Sat May 28 06:01:51 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Yeah I thought that was strange 😅

When I got mine it was photocopies of the originals.

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Sat May 28 13:48:04 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Sorry, I overlooked that.

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u/designerjuicypussy
Fri May 27 21:11:21 2022 UTC
(1 child)

Mine lasted 10 hours they did everything in one surgery

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OP
Fri May 27 21:35:20 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Yeah, yours looks nice. Congratulations x

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u/Hot-Map7659
Sat May 28 07:17:44 2022 UTC
(3 children)

My daughters was a bit over two hours and looks amazing. It looked amazing less than a week post op. I would suggest it varies surgeon to surgeon.

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Sat May 28 09:24:54 2022 UTC
(2 children)

How did you get rid of the V-shaped scar?

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OP
Sun Jun 5 12:33:59 2022 UTC
(1 child)

I haven't got rid of mine. Resigned to either looking disfigured for the rest of my life or keeping fighting to get it fixed. Either way my mental health is as a very low point and there is little hope in sight.

1
Sun Jun 5 15:48:23 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I also didn’t have a very scar, but more or less the countertubex ointment helped me

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u/YAreTheyLikeThis
Sat Jul 16 23:32:01 2022 UTC
(1 child)

I was in theatre for an hour and in recovery for 45 minutes....I was back in my room within 2 hours, and 4 years down the line I'm releasing this isn't normal :/

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Mon Aug 29 19:02:00 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Who was your surgeon?

u/[deleted]
Fri May 27 21:35:18 2022 UTC
(1 child)

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OP
Fri May 27 21:38:12 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Thank you for posting, hope your friend is recovering well and happy x

Wow there is a definite disconnect between what everyone else is saying in here and what I had. Only one working on me as far as I can tell.

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u/HiddenStill
Fri May 27 21:38:32 2022 UTC
(3 children)

I don’t think I’ve ever heard of such a short time. It’s remarkably fast. What day of the week was it?

If you could name your surgeon I’d like to add this post to the surgery wiki.

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OP
Sat Jun 11 22:18:01 2022 UTC
(2 children)

It was on a Saturday. Bellringer had already done in the anesthetist words 'a quick one' then it was me. He done at least one more that afternoon and possibly two.

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Sat Jun 11 23:20:04 2022 UTC
(1 child)

Thought it might be something like that. You'd hope it makes no difference, but looks like surgeons got better things to do.

Our findings are in contrast to those of Aylin and colleagues in their analysis of UK data showing a 44% increase in 30-day mortality following elective surgery occurring on Friday when compared with Monday.

Association between day of the week of elective surgery and postoperative mortality

CS rates are significantly decreased on weekends relative to weekdays, even when controlling for patient, hospital, and system factors.

Does the Day of the Week Predict a Cesarean Section? A Statewide Analysis

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OP
Sun Jun 12 06:07:09 2022 UTC
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(0 children)

It would seem to fit with what I experienced. 75 minutes seems very quick to me and much shorter than I was expecting. He also lied to me when I asked at my checkup and said it was two hours, He had the paperwork in front of him so there is no excuse.

I'm also not sure how common it is to get injected with adrenaline in recovery, I really could have done without being that awake and alert so quickly as well. Most other girls I seen through my open door were completely out of it getting wheeled back to their rooms while I can vividly remember the lively conversation I was having with Neil the recovery nurse.

It all just seems like a lack of care, rushing everything to get away as fast as they could with no respect for the fact it's given me a poor result. I'm so disappointed 🥺

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u/[deleted]
Fri May 27 23:26:38 2022 UTC
(0 children)

i thijk a lot of peopel are confusing time off the ward, with time in theatre with actual operative timing ...

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u/KurayamiAshe
Sat May 28 03:55:32 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I don't know where you had it done. I had mine Montreal by Dr laungany and I was waking up less than two hours later. I don't remember how long exactly it lasted but it was less than 90 minutes. I remember getting in the surgery room around 11 and I was awake a little before 1

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u/michellealyssa
Sat May 28 04:56:54 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Dr Gurjala did mine. It took about 5.5 hours. I love the results.

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u/rose-leaf
Fri May 27 20:49:24 2022 UTC
(5 children)

75 minutes! Wow. That is really quick! I had my SRS with Dr Chettawut and the surgery was 4-5 hours. He has done thousands of SRS surgeries over many years, but he still takes his time to meticulously craft a natural looking vagina with distinct labia. A good looking result takes time, and I don't feel that is possible in 75 minutes. I'm sorry to hear of your bad result. :(

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OP
Fri May 27 20:50:35 2022 UTC
(4 children)

If I send you a picture will you comment in here what you think ?

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Fri May 27 20:54:30 2022 UTC
(3 children)

Sure (if that is what you want)

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OP
Fri May 27 20:57:10 2022 UTC
(2 children)

Yes please, honest objective opinion.

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Fri May 27 22:33:23 2022 UTC
(1 child)

[she shared with me her private post-op photos and once again asked that I post my response publicly after initially sharing my remarks with her. I wrote:]

Thank you for sharing. Yes, I agree the scars are really bad. It should be much better than that after 6 months post-op.

And looking at the one week post op picture, the stitches were done in a very sloppy way that ensured a poor result with scarring. Definitely looks like the surgeon did not take his time to produce a good result. So sorry :(

I had my surgery with Dr Chettawut 5 years ago, and while I wasn't fully healed after 6 months, the scars were much better healed than that (and I am traditionally a slow healer after surgeries)

I'll also add that the scar is in an ugly V-shape as she describes in her other comments. It really stands out from the rest of her skin. And the surgeon didn't create much of any labia at all. I guess this is what happens when a surgeon tries to do everything in 75 minutes... sad.

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OP
Fri May 27 22:35:10 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Thank you. Im glad it's not just me that thinks it's awfull x

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u/misskorra
Fri May 27 22:18:20 2022 UTC
(1 child)

About 1h30m here. Very happy with the results. I would add that the time taken for surgery is not a direct indication of the end result nor it means it was rushed, especially because certain surgeons are known to do it faster than others.

Having said that, I'm sorry you are not very happy with your results.

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OP
Tue May 31 19:27:45 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Not very happy is a bit of an understatement, but thank you anyway.

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u/Possible_Mountain_94
Sat May 28 02:06:58 2022 UTC
(0 children)

My surgery was 8 hours

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u/Jayne_now
Sat May 28 03:53:11 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I was told I had 6 hours of surgery which fits in from when I went out to when I came to.

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u/StarfishColonizer
Sat May 28 04:13:07 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I had McGinn and it was around 2h... Results are great!

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u/[deleted]
Fri May 27 21:46:47 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I was about two hours for PI with Brassard.

I’m sorry that you are going through this.