My Thailand experience (Costs + Travel + Surgery + Results + More)

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u/[deleted]
Wed Aug 24 06:16:57 2022 UTC
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(10 comments)

Hi!

I'm 34 and I had my first SRS 16 years ago in my home country. The results were not great. I was left with many problems (bad aesthetics, no depth, problems to pee) but it's not what this post is about. It'll be about my experience last year with travel, SRS (PPT) and the results. Hopefully, this post is useful to other girls who are considering to travel for their surgeries.

In 2021, after lots of research, I decided to have a secondary SRS (Technique: PPT) with Dr Kamol in Thailand. I made this choice because Thailand it's known to be "the place" to go for such surgery.

Communication & Costs

I was in touch with Dr Kamol's staff for about 2 years prior to the surgery. All communication with them was on email and, at all times, they showed great confidence they could solve my issues. Their prices were as follows:

Secondary vaginoplasty by PPT 507k THB ~14k USD
SRS Touch up 157k THB ~4k USD
Lab Tests, Chest X-ray and EKG 5200 THB ~150 USD

There were other costs which I will not include here because they were specific to Covid (quarantine and tests)

Travel

My partner and I traveled to Thailand and arrived safely in April 2021. At the airport, someone from the health department was waiting for us (due to the pandemic). Everything went smoothly until it was time to go through an immigration officer.

I handed my passport, and they immediately noticed that my gender is marked as "M" even though there's a female name and picture. For context, the gender in my passport is "M" because my country still does not allow to change it legally -- but that's a story for another post.

In the next 10 minutes, over 15 officers came to my booth and at that point I was already very nervous. The interrogation proceeded to begin:

  1. Why is your name and photo female and sex, male?
  2. We need to see the man. Can you hold your hair up?
  3. Is it allowed in America for 2 men to live together? Is it legal? (These were after I told them I was travelling with my partner)
  4. Are you stealing someone's identity?

It all ended when a very nice female officer, the only one who could speak in English, came over and confirmed I am me by looking at my signature from my country's ID and matching it against my passport's.

I had never felt so offended in my life. I thought Thailand was going to be easy but, contrary to popular belief, it was one of the most terrifying experiences ever. I cried all the way to the hospital where my partner and I would be quarantining for the next couple days.

Admission to the hospital

Days passed and the day of the surgery arrived. Although everything had been paid for, they wanted to charge me 6k extra because of "high BMI". I objected not because I didn't want to pay but because I hadn't been notified of such additional charge, ever.

Surgery and recovery

The surgery (secondary SRS with PPT) finally happened and after 6 hours I woke up in the recovery room. A couple of hours later I was taken to my room and was reunited with my partner.

The first couple days I was in a lot of pain and it was difficult to explain to the staff that I needed stronger painkillers because only 1 nurse could speak in English.

During the first few days I was on soup diet and only had a bowel movement after the 4th day.

At the 7th day mark, I was discharged from the hospital and went to Dr Kamol's hotel: K-garden. Again, even though everything had been paid for, I didn't have a room. The hotel manager told me "I had to wait" because there was a person in my room. He offered to give me another room which was much smaller and I declined because that's not what had been previously agreed upon. I reached out to my coordinator and she talked to the hotel manager and had my room 30 mins later.

Dilations were set to start that same day. The first few sessions were very painful. And at no point I could ever go further than 5 inches. That was already concerning to me because I knew that over time I would lose depth. Over the next few days I noticed that in addition to not having much depth, I was also very tight and that there was no definition on the left labia minora. And, that one of the labia majora was bigger than the other.

On the bright side, the peeing problem I originally had was fixed so THAT alone was a huge win as it would allow me to have a "more normal" life. Also, I did not lose any sensitivity on my vagina so that was nice.

A few days later I had my final consultation with Dr Kamol. He said everything looked fine, even though there were clear issues, and that I could go back home. I did not communicate any concern because at that point I didn't want to extend my stay in Thailand -- I just wanted to go home.

1 year post op

It's been a couple months after my first year mark and now that the swelling is gone I can say I'm "ok" with the results. Did I expect more? Yes. Do I regret having gone to Thailand? No, because even though the surgery didn't go as I had hoped, my previous problems were fixed, allowing me to have a more "normal" life.

At this point I don't have a lot of depth left. So I'm now in the search of a surgeon here in the US who can fix that as well as the definition of the labia. Hopefully third time's a charm.

I'm attaching some pictures from different angles so you can see where I am at right now. Please be kind :)

https://preview.redd.it/ctjq8sgitlj91.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3106fc59805c06f92704727dfc5b9ef92ea1140

https://preview.redd.it/lw8ct4hitlj91.jpg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0d6d3723450495b55dbe664d7debdca8f03b371

https://preview.redd.it/37guxsgitlj91.jpg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6e20c996db096ddbba3e576f2f4ecf1c56e7996

Feel free to reach out if you have further questions.

all 10 comments



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u/Itsgettingeasier2bme
Wed Aug 24 07:19:49 2022 UTC
(7 children)

Ive been in communication with that facility, and have felt I'm dealing with a PR representative and not medical staff. All my questions are answered with commercial like responses and word for word verbage from website advertising. Up charging you, after agreed price being set, seems to be a tactic used regularly by Komal. Once you are there, they know most won't refuse and fly home. I personally don't trust them, just from getting prices and email correspondence I've had. I've been quoted three different prices for same procedure, in a four month period. It's such a scary decision, and accountability is zero from surgery facility and doctors there.

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Wed Aug 24 10:07:25 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I had the exact same impression! Would also not trust them at all

5
Wed Aug 24 14:19:58 2022 UTC
(0 children)

I feel the same now. In fact, after the coordinator knew I was in the hospital, it was VERY hard reaching out to her.

Fri Aug 26 07:11:22 2022 UTC
(2 children)

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Fri Aug 26 12:37:07 2022 UTC
(1 child)

Just WoW.... I find it funny how the go between is always transgender. It's like they go out of the way to find someone unlucky enough to suffer what we suffer. I don't care at all if it's a cis individual. I kinda prefer it. I want a professional caring and truthful go-between. It's a damn circus. I'll never go and have anything done there.

1
Tue Sep 13 20:36:02 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Yeah the issue is that they have people on reddit promoting him and his work is not that great. Go to his site you can't even click on the images of his "successes" to see a larger version of them.

I suggest going to Dr. Theerapong via Siam Transformative, Dr. Bank of Suporn Clinic, Dr. Chettawut. There are better options out there.

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u/Turbulent_Basil4934
Wed Aug 24 08:29:16 2022 UTC
(1 child)

I'm glad your peeing issue was sorted, living with that for 16 years must've been tough. was the us surgeon paid for by your insurance? also I think you mean ppt not ppv, ppv is penile preserving vaginoplasty, ppt is peritoneal pull through

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Wed Aug 24 14:12:17 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Thanks. Yes, it was tough. I basically couldn't drink too much water or anything because i just couldn't hold the pee at all and have accidents. It was very sad. Today this is not an issue anymore.

No, it wasn't paid by my insurance. It was out of pocket.

Thanks for the correction re terminology, will update the post :)

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u/HiddenStill
Wed Aug 24 10:42:53 2022 UTC
(2 children)

they wanted to charge me 6k extra because of "high BMI"

Did you pay?

Do you have any before photos? It’s hard to interpret the after photos without them.

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Wed Aug 24 14:09:11 2022 UTC
(1 child)

No, i did not pay because i was determined to go home and asked them for a refund.

Yes, i do. Happy to share them over message.

0
Wed Aug 24 15:17:10 2022 UTC
(0 children)

Thanks, but no thanks.