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I marked this as spoiler as the surgery pics are a bit to graphic.
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edit the title to say “[[graphic surgical content]]” or something 😅
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haha i meant “i vote for”
I'm a nurse and felt woozy, I didn't go into surgery for a reason ;_;
No kidding, that absolutely made me queasy
That's fucking hardcore
okay, so while looking at this i was freaked out ngl, then i saw the after and wow the results are amazing
Hey all! I had my FFS with doctor Rossi in Argentina 6 months ago. The procedures I had were: - Type 3 forehead reconstruction - Orbital rim shave - Chin reduction - Jaw reduction - forehead reduction - Trachea shave - upper-lip lipofilling - Hair transplants
In total I paid 14.800$ excluding lodging and food.
how did your surgeon acheive that great post jawline by only reducing chin and jaw?? in the before picture it looks like you have a recessed chin (like myself) and the after is snatched, gurllll! what added the chin projection somehow?!
I had a nice jawline before aswell, just not as smooth. The before picture is a little off throwing, because the angle is a bit weird :D
do u have a regular picture of jawline before that exanples what youre sayint? that is so strange, youre right it is totally an optical illusion then cuz both look to be at presicely the same angle too 🙀 how peculiar
It’s just hitting me now: what they did to me during surgery. Holy fuck.
I love the diagrams of this shit. They look like shit posts. Just like..
"Here's ya face"
"Now we just peel it off yer fawkin' skull loike a fruit roll-up off th' plastic.."
"Heheh...silly happy skull. Just chizel that bit off, shave that down.."
"Aight, roll 'er back on! Couple stiches.."
"Good as new! ...Nah nah we ain't no cannibals we jus' doin' surgery here!"
I really want to get FFS at some point, but I'm worried I would feel disturbed knowing what they did.
Did you feel disturbed at all or are you glad that you went through with it?
You look really great 😸
Thankyou :>
That price is really cheap. Facial Team quote I got was up past 30k usd (45-50k aud) for not even a half of whats listed.
This really makes me wonder. I'll be spending every last cent thanks to the aud exchange rate. Might if it's worth having a chat with Rossi.
One of the big reason why I wanted to stick with facial team was the simultaneous hair transplant. Seemed like good way to get it all done at once. But kind of at the point where I'm struggling to justify the increased costs.
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Really just enforces how expensive being trans* really is. 5 years of saving in my position. Not of it's easy to do alone. Just wish medicare (aus) cover things and I'd just get it done locally and chase up the rest.
I can only recommend t-change, they're very professional and the procedures are as good as they get. They don't do the simultaneous hair transplants, but I got them two weeks after in a hair clinic :)
Facial team is great but I talked to a woman who had surgery with them in 2015 or 2016 and their prizes were a lot lower during that time. On the same level as 2 pass clinic or even slightly lower.
Still worth it if you can afford it though
You look great, but I really wasn't prepared for these pictures...
same i was a bit triggered :( even tho it says nsfw it did not make the thumbnail blurry
Your jawline is much more forward than before. Can you explain what they did?
That's more of an optical illusion (because of the angle the picture was taken in) combined with the raising of the chin
14k? Holy shit sounds like something almost affordable lmao
Yep, I'm in debt now, but it was all worth it, and the sum of money I owe isn't some astronomical amount I'll never be able to pay back. It really is affordable :)
Do they offer a payment plan?
Keojampa offers 80k$ for all above 🤪
Yea :") Dr. Mardirossian is in the same ball park
You look great! Money well spent!
How long did it take you to recover?
Thankyou! I'd say about 5 weeks until most pain and healing were over, except for swelling :)
Oh my... How long did you have all the gauze and stuff on your head?
Only a few hours :)
LOL
Seriously, though, like two weeks?
No that was meant seriously :D
So, how come a lot of people have dressing on their faces and heads for a week? Oh well...
I don't know, but I only had it for the one night I spent in the hospital
I am both amazed and happy for you. :)
What currency is 14.800$ is that usd?
Omg I’ve heard of facial peels but that is ridiculous.
Ha! They don’t show those kind of pics on FFS websites. Might put a few people off 😂
We keep it real here. Everyone should be aware of what they are getting themselves into. These are surgery decisions that are difficult, if not impossible, to walk back. No one should be making this journey unless they are fully prepared and informed. That includes a solid understanding of available surgery procedures.
Yep that’s a good thing.
I’d just not seen facial surgery pics before that wouldn’t be out of place in Terrifier 2 or Hostel 😊.
the scalp is so thick in real life jesus christ.
Yea that surprised me too, u would think the scalp is thinner because of how it feels when you touch it, but it's so thick in reality :D
...Yuh.
Who did the surgery? That's wild
Dr Javier Rossi ^
Definitely going to need an update pic when you're comfortable! I'm open mouth gawking over here 😳
Can I message you?
Most of the pics I posted on Reddit are post surgery :) But yeah sure ^
Can I hop on this dm train? Looking at surgeons currently
Sure :)
Was it in Europe or Buenos Aires?
Savage but I love the real pictures. Thank you for this sis! You look amazing! :) Post some face pics before and after once the swelling goes down if you wouldn't mind.
Yess I love the pictures as well :)) I might do a new timeline at some point, but till then, most pictures I have posted on Reddit are post-surgery :) The swelling is almost completely gone, since the surgery took place about 6 months ago, only my chin is still a little swollen, but that can take up to a year to fully go away.
Oh girly, I'd love to see before and afters then. Looking into different places before going with facialteam.
Might do that later today, although it's already a little late over here, so maybe tomorrow
But I can wholeheartedly recommend t-change, they're incredibly kind and accommodating. I'd go with them again anytime :)
Yowza! How do you look at these images of yourself without having an existential crisis? I recently had FFS myself and have been doing my best to not think about the details of the procedure, let alone see them.
I dunno, I think it's absolutely fascinating what they did during the procedure and I would have loved to see pictures of the jaw work and different angles of the forehead aswell.
Hot giggity damn I was not prepared for it but girl the results speak for themselves. You are looking fantastic
Thank you so much :>
Oh wtf....sorry, but please put gore as a trigger warning or something...that really scared me.
I'm sorry, I thought saying they're surgery pics and putting an nsfw mark on it would be enough ':)
Wow i had surgery with Dr Rossi 2 weeks ago also and see this pics makes me realized what they really did to my face
Yea it was a hard realisation for me aswell xd
Muh'fuckahs really do just peel your fucking face off and then roll it back on like one of those wet adhesive posters jesus harold christ what the fuck did I just look at
Can't argue with the results though!
Those are some results.
That's really super interesting but maybe it's more appropriate on r/MedicalGore haha, you should post there, they'll be happy :)
Btw I'm curious, it looks super painful, was it ?
Haha I might :D
Actually It wasn't at all, only when touching the skull hurt a little. And now, 6 months later, only the screws hurt sometimes in extreme cold or harsh weather changes :)
You was awake when they did the surgery ?? Oh, you'll ring at the airports haha
You think the pain with weather changes is definitive ?
Haha no, I meant after the surgery :D The screws are non-magnetic so sadly I won't ring at the airport :<
Probably, I've talked to other people with surgery scars and metal in their bodies, it seems to stay, but the pain isn't that bad :)
Phew ! So in what material is it ? You should try metal detectors, like those ones people use on the beach, I tried on my back, it was reaaaally fun to ring (I don't either ring at the airport btw, but I've got metal)
Alright, that's the main thing if it's not too much painful :) Btw, I forgot to tell you that your FFS results are really beautiful :)
I think it's titanium :) Masne illbtry some metal detectors, the stud finder will definitely ring xD
Yes it was a very nice recovery :) Thankyou very much :>
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I mean it does say surgery pictures in the title 👀
Does he accept financing options?
Sadly I don't know, you'd have to contact them. Their clinic is called t-change.
Holy shit! What a transformation!
Incredible results! And such awesome intraoperative pictures!!!!! I'm a medical/surgical field nerd haha🤓
Thank you so much :)
The results look awesome! Your jaw in the after picture looks more defined in a good way, is it just optical illusion or did they do something to do that?
It's a bit of both, I had jaw and chin work, but the bigger difference in these images is the angle :)
Great pics love transmutation. Did you ask your surgeon to take these pics or were they standard? Have my ffs consult coming up. Hope your recovery is easy
They're standard, Dr. Rossi always takes them and uses them for his surgical study to further advance FFS techniques. :)
Actually good FFS results from a good Craniofacial surgeon at a good price too. Too many hacks claim to do FFS and dont deliver.. amazing job and recovery sis
OP.... Put the before and after comparison picture first please... I was eating my breakfast... I thought I'd see an after image with bruising and stitches.
Not skin peeled off a skull during surgery...
Like seriously... Even an NSFW tag doesn't really do this justice for how nsfw it is...
Im sorry, if I were able to still change that I would, I didn't think this would be too harsh for this subreddit, but I guess my tolerance for these kinds of pictures is a little on the high end xd
Thank you for these amazing pictures. I wish I had some of my operations!
You're welcome! I wish I had more pictures of the other procedures aswell :)
I see all these without any fear at all once I hit that last picture. I can't wait for that.
Girl you look so good!
He snatched you! 😮
Thanks for sharing those during surgery photos! Who took them?
The surgeon himself, he's documenting the process to further advance FFS :)
How’d you get the pics? Just ask?
Yep :) in my contract it said they were taking pictures during surgery so I asked him afterwards if I may see them
What was pain like and what not?
My forehead actually didn't hurt at all, only when touching. My jaw on the other hand was painful while talking, eating, drinking etc.
Why did they take the sinus bone out and put it back again?
That's the difference between type 1 and type 3 reconstruction. If your sinus isn't thick enough to shave the top layer of bone off without creating an opening they take it out and grind it down from multiple angles to reduce its projection
Woaa thanks for explaining! Thats very interesting
That’s crazy. A little taken back, misread the caption 😅 Stuff like this is so interesting.
Thanks for posting this, I've been looking at Dr.Rossi myself for awhile. So interesting to see the during pics, the surgery is actually much cleaner than I imagined. I desperately want this done!
Congrats! xx
Thanks for the pics! Going to Rossi in a month, will also post surgery pics as soon as I have them :)
Wonderful! Enjoy Buenos Aires :) there are tons of great restaurants and shops :>
I luckily have a friend of a friend who lives there, so I’ll be able to get an authentic BA experience :D
Looks great, love what they did with your chin too. I'm always amazed at how much they pull down the skin yet we can't see the person's eyeballs. lol
It really is amazing, it feels like you should be able to 👀
No wonder some people feel their vision is affected right after. It was not my case, though. Congrats, girl!
I love this!!!! I had the same procedures. I know people will freak out over the graphic nature of the photos. I think they are insightful. Thank you for posting
holy mother of god i love this
god i hope i can get my surgeons to take some pictures of me with my face peeled back. surreal
To know that all we are is just layers of red ham and cheese
Results are amazing. Congratulations
Wow it’s incredible how tissue can be disconnected from the face like that and then just put back and it doesn’t die or anything, it just reattaches itself. The human body truly is incredible how it repairs itself
It really is :) the scar is now barely visible and I just have some Sensory issues, otherwise you wouldn't know I had this procedure ^
That’s amazing that medical technology is so advanced that we can do things like this. I hope your recovery was quick and not too painful
Thankyou, it all went fairly quick and easy :) only the first week was pretty hard
Nice! They did that to me too. When people ask me what it's like, I tell them it kind of feels like I got scalped. But you look great
Haha I mean we kinda have been scalped almost Thankyou!
Lol I'm just glad they put it back! 😹👗💋
I really wish I wouldn’t have clicked on this. That’s a horror show…I mean, I still am going to get ffs but this terrifies me so much
I'm sorry to hear that, but let me assure you, the surgery was barely painful and recovery wasn't too bad either:)
Who was your surgeon?
Dr Rossi in Buenos Aires
That looked rough but the results are Amazing.
What made you decide to go to Rossi, instead of staying local? And did you have insurance that would cover FFS in the states?
Props to the surgeon for knowing where everything is
I would be scared
Holy shit that’s amazing
Damn nose pores still come through. We can never escape it
Showing these pictures when i go to get an acne peel.
Jk but you look great!!
I had FFS three weeks ago. It is interesting to see what they did to me. I have to admit I have been curious to see what it would have looked like. Right now it feels like my forehead is too small for my skull. How long did that feeling last for you?
Probably 4-5 weeks, afterwards the feeling in the forehead starts returning and it feels less stretched :)
This is SO COOL. Thank you for sharing and congrats 😊 I’m jealous!
Dear lord
Why the Eff do they have to tear apart the scalp, cant they just go in from the side with a rasping file and file down thru a small incision? Seems overkill and too invasive.
Coronal incision (mid scalp ear to ear) and the "open" approach seems extreme but it preserves nerve function better, hides the scar within the hairline, and is a better aesthetic option for those who don't need a hairline advancement (since this approach often raises the hairline just a smidge). And the brow bone can't just be filed in 99 pct of cases. It has to be cut out, reshaped and put back in. And this usually comes alongside filing down the orbital rims too. Open approach is gruesome, efficient, effective, and safe.
It's insane how it works, but I had this done to me in September and am happy with the results.
Your medical expertise has been noted.
I want this.
This is incredible to see, especially as someone interested in medicine. Thank you for sharing and good luck with your recovery.
Amazing results 💙 💜 💚
First time seeing the surgery :0 so this is how it's done. Great results ❤ how much time did it took you to recover? it didn't leave any scars?
I’m late but wow they did that!!! Looks good
Beautiful forehead work. Rossi is a very skilled surgeon
Who was your surgeon ??
Slide 5 is actually mind boggling
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