Cancellation of elective surgeries

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u/HiddenStill
Sat Mar 14 00:55:23 2020 UTC
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(105 comments)

This was released by the American College of Surgeons today

Each hospital, health system, and surgeon should thoughtfully review all scheduled elective procedures with a plan to minimize, postpone, or cancel electively scheduled operations, endoscopies, or other invasive procedures until we have passed the predicted inflection point in the exposure graph and can be confident that our health care infrastructure can support a potentially rapid and overwhelming uptick in critical patient care needs.

https://www.facs.org/about-acs/covid-19/information-for-surgeons

Suporn in Thailand did this 10 days ago, and there’s a discussion about it two days ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/fgvhlv/suporn_cancellations_and_frustration_rebooking/

Elective surgery includes all trans surgeries.

This post on r/medicine 5 days ago illustrates why this is occurring

Article on the cancellations by vice

Article by Rachel Savage (see her reddit post post )

A post on r/medicine by doctors discussing this issue (don't post there, its for medical professionals).


Surgeons known to have cancelled surgery

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u/dmolin96
Sat Mar 14 01:12:13 2020 UTC
(17 children)

This is the right thing to do as much as I hate admitting it. We need to completely refocus our awful (US) health care system on this virus. Any nonessential (by which I mean essential to sustaining life) healthcare resources need to be redirected immediately.

But it does suck. Just like closing schools, shutting down sports, events etc. sucks. We can both admit that it sucks AND admit that we have to do it.

Sat Mar 14 01:14:36 2020 UTC
(16 children)

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Sat Mar 14 01:45:29 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Yes, but people who need to be in intensive care take priority for the time being. it's just how it is, the virus is a huge strain on the health care systems of their respective countries.

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Sat Mar 14 02:55:31 2020 UTC
(13 children)

No, sorry, you're wrong about this one. I'm affected too, as I had an upcoming surgery. This pandemic absolutely takes priority.

Sat Mar 14 03:00:59 2020 UTC
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(12 children)

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Sat Mar 14 03:37:59 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I honestly and empathetically understand your point, but this situation is beyond that.

Sat Mar 14 04:37:59 2020 UTC
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(10 children)

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Sat Mar 14 16:27:25 2020 UTC
(9 children)

Don't bother. Trans people with this mindset are narcissistic. If someone is that suicidal, they need to be admitted into a psych hospital or have intensive therapy. Yes, surgeries are important, but considering a vast majority of trans people are living and thriving without surgery (not because they don't want it), they'll be okay.

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u/alynde
Sat Mar 14 19:13:48 2020 UTC
(5 children)

Just out of genuine curiousity, what is this magical intensive therapy that will cure body dysphoria?

Also calling clearly suicidal people narcissistic and then going on to show exactly 0 empathy towards them kind of comes across as projecting.

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Sat Mar 14 19:17:38 2020 UTC
(4 children)

It's not magical but if you're actively suicidal, you should seek therapy. The healing process is not easy and even if you get surgery, if the hospital doesn't allow visitors (which is what my facility has started), that can have an effect on your psychological health while healing also. I don't know why you all are just responding to me when many people in the thread said the same thing. It sucks, but that's life. If you can't cope with that, then life will be hard for you.

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u/alynde
Sat Mar 14 19:27:20 2020 UTC
(2 children)

I don't know, I just came across as your comment first and that's why I replied. I just find it really heartbreaking to see almost everyone dismiss someone clearly in a terrible situation, and saying that in the name of caring for everyone else they should just accept getting pushed down the hole and possibly being driven to suicide.

And we both know that no psych ward is going to help this.

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Sat Mar 14 19:32:53 2020 UTC
(1 child)

I'm not trying to be callous but again, this is life. It sucks but it happens. Doctors are worried about overflowing ERs and hospitals near capacity. If your surgery isn't life and death, they likely will cancel. That's just how it is. I work in a hospital and it's just a lot of stuff happening right now. From the outside, it can seem unfair. Maybe I'm more level headed because surgery isn't ever happening for me.

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Mon Apr 13 02:15:17 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Therapy doesn’t help past a certain point. That’s why you can’t just therapy yourself out of being trans

Sat Mar 14 16:41:52 2020 UTC
(2 children)

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Sat Mar 14 16:49:27 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Not saying they don't, but many of us don't even have a surgery date. Some of us never will. There are many trans people who are at risk of COVID because of their employment. It sucks, but equating trans surgeries to life or death operations is beyond ignorant.

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u/Hazlrh1
Sat Mar 14 02:02:51 2020 UTC
(1 child)

I just found out today that my consult that I made 9 months ago for next Wednesday has been cancelled and moved to May, because the surgeon isn’t seeing new patients. I’m hoping it doesn’t get pushed back again.

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OP
Sat Mar 14 18:45:46 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Would you mind saying who your surgeon is?

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u/CalmExternal
Sat Mar 14 01:56:40 2020 UTC
(6 children)

As a trans nurse, I can say this is the right thing to do, even though it will be difficult and painful for a lot of people, it is for the greater good.

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OP
Sat Mar 14 02:19:11 2020 UTC
(3 children)

Just in case you’ve not seen this sub, it’s very informative

https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/

Posting is by medical professionals only.

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Sat Mar 14 02:35:12 2020 UTC
(2 children)

Oh, thank you! I haven't seen it, but I will join! Incidentally i made a sub for trans nurses r/TransNurses but it's not exclusive to professionals only.

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OP
Sat Mar 14 02:39:49 2020 UTC
(1 child)

If you look in the wiki in that sub there’s a list of related subs.

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Sat Mar 14 02:43:40 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Excellent! I'll look later, I'm actually finishing med pass right now lol

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Tue May 5 01:54:16 2020 UTC
(1 child)

The system I work for started doing elective surgeries today. I have to admit it’s scaring me. All of this mess has me worried. Thank you for your hard work and dedication during this crisis.

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Tue May 5 05:04:27 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I love my job, so I will never stop no matter how bad things get. I think we are jumping the gun by starting things up again and opening states. Time will tell.

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u/RachelMSavage Journalist with Thomson Reuters Foundation
Journalist with Thomson Reuters Foundation
Mon Mar 30 16:28:22 2020 UTC
(2 children)

Hello all, I report on LGBT+ issues for the Thomson Reuters Foundation and am researching this issue for a potential story. I hope you don't mind me commenting on the thread. I'm in touch with Mount Sinai and Facial Team, but I'd also like to hear from people who have had their affirming surgeries delayed/cancelled recently. If anyone does want to get in touch the best way is email: [ rachel.savage@thomsonreuters.com ](mailto: rachel.savage@thomsonreuters.com ). But you can also find me on Twitter and my article profile is here: https://news.trust.org/profile/?id=003D000002WZGYRIA5
I hope you're all doing ok and staying well & safe.
Take care, Rachel

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OP
Mon Mar 30 17:53:46 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Hi Rachel, I'd suggest you make a new post in this sub. Your comment here won't be very visible.

I added a yellow flair to your username so people can see you're a reporter when you're on this sub.

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Journalist with Thomson Reuters Foundation
Tue Mar 31 08:34:03 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Thank you, that's good advice! I'm afraid I'm still new to using Reddit as a reporting tool, but thank you for being understanding

u/[deleted]
Mon Mar 16 15:59:19 2020 UTC
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(2 children)

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Tue Mar 17 03:23:08 2020 UTC
(1 child)

End of May or beginning?

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u/JustWeird
Mon Mar 16 20:25:45 2020 UTC
(1 child)

You can add Bowers to that list for the month of March. 😭

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Tue Mar 17 20:43:54 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I have vaginoplasty with her in may, I really hope it doesn’t get canceled 😓

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u/NoEggxaggeration
Thu Apr 30 01:27:20 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Florida just announced resumption of elective surgeries statewide on May 4. So if you're seeing Dr. Mardirossian or other Florida docs in the nearish future you might be in luck.

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u/BarelyAPrincess
Wed Jun 24 00:51:16 2020 UTC
(0 children)

My original date back in April was cancelled and it was the worst thing that could have happened to me - only a week beforehand. Now I'm scheduled for July 21st and I don't know what I would do if it was postponed yet again. I understand the need to focus on the pandemic but they are gambling with our mental health and there are those of us who are suicidal without the surgery.

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u/RosyGlow
Sat Mar 21 20:57:28 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Brassard and the GRS Montreal team are postponing procedures until further notice.

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u/LiliaFT Community manager at Facial Team
Community manager at Facial Team
Fri Apr 17 12:19:13 2020 UTC
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(0 children)

Hello, Lilia of FT here.

As our coordinators and the official published notice has advised, this was a really difficult decision to make but the first priority was to protect our patients, our staff and brace for uncertainties of the future. FT acted quickly, less than 24 hours after the emergency state in Spain was announced on Saturday, March 14th.

Staff are currently working under home quarantine until further notice (at least until the end of April) and the HC hospital (or any hospital for that matter) is unavailable at the moment. Subsequent updates are being posted on the same blog link "Covid Advisory" - all surgeries until the end of May are either rescheduled or pending a new date when the situation is clarified in patient's countries, where the pandemic is developing at different rates and border closures are indefinite right now.

In any case, please do let your coordinator know if you require further assistance, we remain here to help as best we can. Thanks for your understanding and patience. Check our social media for resources in the meantime about our activity, plans for the future and even talks to continue your research in FFS.

Thanks for your feedback.

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u/Amethyst_Butterfly
Sun Apr 19 20:29:09 2020 UTC
(0 children)

What angers me isn't the cancellation due to needing to reserve space and supplies due to the COVID-19 pandemic emergency. I fully understand and support that.

What angers me is that my GCS was originally scheduled for February 21, but was cancelled by the hospital less than 48 hours before it was scheduled to begin. So I had to reschedule it for April 10, and it was cancelled due to the pandemic emergency.

What I was told by my surgeon's office staff when the original date was cancelled was that the hospital suddenly decided that they were not going to allow that sort of surgery to be done in that hospital from that point on due to it being in conflict with their religious principals.

When I tried to complain to the group that the hospital was a member of, I got a letter saying that it was cancelled due to my primary insurance saying that they weren't going to cover it. My primary insurance is Medicare. But even if they did say that they weren't going to cover it, my secondary insurance, which is a major medical health insurance policy not just a Medicare supplemental, would pay for it as if they were primary. So on the face of it their story doesn't make sense.

I have tried to contact my surgeon's office to see if I could get a letter from them stating who it was from the hospital contacted them, and exactly what that person said. Unless I get this I don't know what steps, if any, I could take against the hospital

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u/PrincessNakeyDance
Sat Mar 14 19:25:06 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Does anyone know how long it should last? I just got an orchiectomy scheduled on Wednesday for 4/27. I was over the moon excited and now I'm having severe anxiety over this. I do fortunately live in a less populated area so that may help, but this is just so shitty. Self love and hope is getting replaced by fear. I'm done.

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OP
Sat Mar 14 19:30:53 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I don’t think I’ve seen any estimates, but I would expect until either most people have had it (assuming that makes you immune) or a vaccine is available.

I have read vaccines normally take 12 to 18 months to develop, so I’m guessing quite a while.

u/[deleted]
Tue Mar 17 10:03:53 2020 UTC
(1 child)

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OP
Tue Mar 17 10:07:20 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Done. Thanks.

u/[deleted]
Tue Mar 17 17:28:01 2020 UTC
(3 children)

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OP
Tue Mar 17 22:05:41 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Who’s the surgeon working there?

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u/miss_pixie3
Wed Mar 18 12:51:00 2020 UTC
(0 children)

FacialTeam just cancelled my surgery on May 4th. Will be re-scheduled at a later date

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u/JustWeird
Thu Mar 19 04:01:56 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Now Bowers has cancelled all of April.

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u/Synthwaved
Thu Mar 19 04:07:45 2020 UTC
(19 children)

Curious if anyone who has an upcoming ffs with Dr. DB has run into any issues? Mine is set for May, and I’m starting to get a bit anxious with the other cancellations happening

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Sun Mar 22 19:15:09 2020 UTC
(11 children)

I had DB scheduled for next week. It was cancelled. I rescheduled for July but I think that’s optimistic. You will almost certainly be delayed and should plan accordingly.

Three weeks earlier and I would’ve gotten it. I was so close. I did everything perfectly except account for a pandemic apocalypse.

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Sun Mar 22 19:41:45 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Fuck. I’m so sorry to hear that.

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Sun Mar 29 14:22:59 2020 UTC
(5 children)

Mine is in July too hopefully it doesn’t get postponed again for you 🤞

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u/bbnono
Sun May 17 17:47:12 2020 UTC
(4 children)

Figured I’d update. I had FFS rescheduled like 4 times. Kinda last minute they emailed and I did it 5/13. Recovering now. The hospital was a ghost town and you’ll have to do a COVID test. Not much to report. Oh and no visitors.

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Sun May 17 18:01:26 2020 UTC
(3 children)

Im so happy for you!!! Mine is still scheduled too and I need to get a COVID test beforehand too. How is recovering and like getting a hotel room or something?

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Tue Jun 23 09:58:17 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Hey, are you still scheduled for July?

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Tue Jun 23 12:56:37 2020 UTC
(0 children)

yes

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Tue Jun 23 09:57:02 2020 UTC
(3 children)

Hey, just came across this post, are you still scheduled for July?

Sat Jun 27 01:17:24 2020 UTC
(2 children)

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Sat Jul 4 12:28:14 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Glad to hear :)

I had to reschedule mine to September but looking at all the recent spikes I'm thinking it may get cancelled again but we'll see.

Good luck with yours!

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u/bbnono
Mon Apr 13 23:45:58 2020 UTC
(3 children)

Mine was scheduled for April 14th and was cancelled. It’s rescheduled for may 5th and confirmed by the hospital. I was told everything was cancelled for April by DB office.

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Tue Apr 14 02:20:31 2020 UTC
(2 children)

Sorry to hear your original appointment was cancelled, but I’m glad they could squeeze you in May. I haven’t heard much from them recently (understandably), so I’m curious when you say confirmed by the hospital, if that means they don’t plan to cancel elective procedures in May? As much as anyone can promise that, of course?

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u/bbnono
Tue Apr 14 16:33:21 2020 UTC
(1 child)

So, my original surgery date was actually May 22nd. Then COVID hit and a lot of people cancelled surgeries with DB. Long story short, April 14th was open and I live close, so I took it. Got my new paperwork from DB office with that date but we were waiting for the hospital to approve the surgery. The hospital officially said no and the next avail was May 5th. So I asked for that and evidently the hospital said yes. So as of right now I am having surgery May 5th. Have the paperwork, paid for, etc. But who knows.

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Tue Apr 14 16:40:38 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Got it, thanks for sharing. I also live in SF, and was close to hopping on a mid April one as well.

I hope it sticks this time!

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Fri Apr 10 22:21:05 2020 UTC
(2 children)

Who is Dr DB?

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Fri Apr 10 22:23:44 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Jordan Deschamps-Braly ( https://deschamps-braly.com )

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Fri Apr 10 22:26:01 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Thank you!

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u/[deleted]
Sun Apr 19 01:33:05 2020 UTC
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Fuck mine just got cancelled. I had FTM top surgery with Dr Grunwaldt at UPMC on May 7. Cancelled with no reschedule date in sight. Scheduler told me at least July if I can even get back in. I’ve never found it harder to get out of bed in the morning 😥

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u/beez1717
Mon Mar 16 10:52:57 2020 UTC
(8 children)

It really frustrates me to no end because for me it doesn’t feel elective.

Tue Mar 17 10:06:08 2020 UTC
(7 children)

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Wed Mar 18 00:54:20 2020 UTC
(6 children)

Doesn't it also mean surgeries that aren't emergencies but should be done as soon as possible, such as most heart and lung surgeries that aren't in an emergency situation? I wonder if getting a pacemaker or a defibrillator or treating cancer counts as elective or not. This is fascinating me now.

Wed Mar 18 07:07:41 2020 UTC
(3 children)

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Thu Mar 19 15:59:37 2020 UTC
(2 children)

Ah. Now I understand. Thanks!

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Mon Mar 23 21:30:03 2020 UTC
(1 child)

They just don’t consider the possibility of s**cide to be “unable to live without it”...

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Mon Mar 23 22:09:28 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I think they would have you do video therapy with someone so you could stay at home so nothing happens to you.

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Sun Apr 19 01:39:10 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Unfortunately I’ve already heard of cancer patients getting their surgeries cancelled.

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Mon Apr 20 23:29:56 2020 UTC
(0 children)

That's just horrible, and if those patients die as a result, then it's unforgivable, yet the virus could kill the patient if they catch it during surgery. It's so complicated.

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u/NoEggxaggeration
Sat Mar 14 01:48:45 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Does anyone have this cited exposure graph?

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OP
Sat Mar 14 02:47:26 2020 UTC
(0 children)

There’s a lot of good discussion in r/medicine . Maybe you can find something useful. Read the rules before posting there.

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u/VanillaicecreamEater
Sat Mar 14 02:25:56 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Ugh. No. -_-.

u/[deleted]
Sun Mar 15 04:22:09 2020 UTC
(2 children)

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OP
Sun Mar 15 04:44:26 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I have no idea. You could try asking their policy, but they may not have one.

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Wed Mar 18 23:34:44 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Just to give you a data point, I had surgery scheduled with Dr. Rachel Bluebond-Langner in NYC for March 27, and her office called me on March 16th to notify me that my surgery was rescheduled for June 4.

u/[deleted]
Fri Mar 20 11:51:35 2020 UTC
(8 children)

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OP
Fri Mar 20 13:25:41 2020 UTC
(7 children)

I hope you’re ok. This will be over soon enough in the scheme of things.

Fri Mar 20 14:11:55 2020 UTC
(6 children)

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OP
Fri Mar 20 14:14:37 2020 UTC
(5 children)

Can you pay and travel for surgery?

Fri Mar 20 14:16:57 2020 UTC
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(4 children)

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OP
Fri Mar 20 14:24:36 2020 UTC
(3 children)

When it gets right down to it, your life is more important that your education.

Fri Mar 20 14:27:51 2020 UTC
(2 children)

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OP
Fri Mar 20 14:34:56 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Yeah, nothing is easy about being trans.

Education does make a fundamental difference to your entire life, and more is generally better. It’s not just the money, but generally a more satisfying career.

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Fri Mar 20 16:00:19 2020 UTC
(0 children)

For dysphoria you could try to not concentrate on things you don´t like. Try to regularly do a few things you like, and try to concentrate on pos. things. This way you could avoid a downwards spiral.

And for momentary relief taking deep and slow breaths and trying to concentrate on the surrounding could help.

And if you keep looking for ways, there may be a solution eventually. Many take off between 4 and 6 weeks and it may be possible to find an opportunity during christmas, easter or summer break. Try to think positive and keep going. Suporn said they will fit in additional slots to help with a backlog. Other surgeons may do something similar.

Sending you hugs

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u/littlemissnikki77
Mon Mar 23 19:32:21 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Dr Pang at Mount Sinai is canceled for March and April 🥺 my tracheal shave was pushed back to June

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u/LivJackell92
Mon Mar 23 21:28:31 2020 UTC
(1 child)

I was supposed to get FFS June 2 with Dr. Ting, but even if that isn’t cancelled, I don’t know how I’m gonna get the letters I need for insurance or get surgical clearance from my PCP.

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Tue Mar 24 01:34:30 2020 UTC
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I don’t know how I’m gonna get the letters

Here is a list with online therapists that have written letters for surgery. Some also have a M.D. etc. so there should be some therapists there who fulfill their criteria. Additionally looking up reviews may be a good idea.

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u/caysie98
Tue Mar 24 13:18:45 2020 UTC
(0 children)

From Dr Garramone in Florida who does FTM top surgery, posted yesterday morning (3/23):

“Update: the State of Florida has banned all elective surgeries.

We will be rescheduling all patients who had surgery scheduled for the last week of March and the first week of April.

We will post updates as needed.”

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u/MsAlexiaFuentes
Wed Mar 25 18:23:40 2020 UTC
(0 children)

My top surgery was scheduled for 4/6. In the grand scheme of things, I understand why it happened. I can simultaneously be sympathetic to the folks working to save lives right now, thankful it was cancelled for safety reasons, and frustrated that I now I have to wait longer (after my consult having been postponed twice).

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u/Maybebaby57
Thu Mar 26 21:42:17 2020 UTC
(0 children)

You can add Dr. Rachel Bluebond-Langner to that list. Approximately a two-month delay.

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u/bluebell760
Sat Mar 28 09:23:22 2020 UTC
(1 child)

I was due for op early May. Was private. Has just been cancelled due to the increased risk post op to the virus😥. Not sure if that means I have to wait till there’s a vaccine 😥

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OP
Sat Mar 28 10:07:38 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Probably no way of knowing without just waiting. Hopefully the risk will go down to an acceptable level well before a vaccine is available, but there’s also the wait list to contend with.

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u/[deleted]
Sat May 16 21:25:12 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I'm having a hard time discerning the state of outpatient elective surgeries in Los Angeles county. Has anyone been able to resume a previously scheduled surgery like breast augmentation?

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u/[deleted]
Tue Jun 2 01:12:13 2020 UTC
(1 child)

Has anyone been scheduled with Brassard for June? They updated their blog on the 15th they would be resuming surgeries but then nothing since then.

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Mon Jun 22 04:57:25 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Before ceasing operations, they had already scheduled through July. They will be prioritizing rebooking cancellations in August and September, and then will presumably start booking new patients after that.

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u/claire_lunara
Sat Mar 14 14:51:42 2020 UTC
(2 children)

Do you have any insights into how surgeons in general go about rescheduling canceled surgeries? Do they resume right where they left off and shift everyone's date accordingly, or is everyone's date fixed and they simply squeeze the canceled surgeries into slots as they open up? Right now I'm scheduled in mid-September, and I'm wondering if I should be planning to have to change my arrangements in case I get bumped back.

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OP
Sat Mar 14 18:44:54 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I don’t really know. I’d hope they try to be fair about it, and try to keep the original order, but I’m sure it’s going to be difficult. I expect it will be difficult from our side too, as many choose dates around education, work, etc.

Vaccines normally take 12 to 18 months to develop so I doubt this will be over anytime soon.

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Sun Apr 19 01:44:27 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I spoke to my surgeons scheduler directly about this. My surgeon is going to start helping the hospital catch up with more urgent surgeries that were not originally her work and then she is going to keep order of her patients where she left off. But only as many as she can as she leaves in August so I probably won’t make it because I was one of the last on her list 🙃

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u/Kim_333
Sun Mar 15 20:47:58 2020 UTC
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Here were the news from South Korea:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UpliftingNews/comments/fi4eqp/south_korea_reports_more_recoveries_than/

-more recoveries than new cases

-a rate of fatalities of 0.7 percent, due to extensive testing, which may reveal a more accurate rate.

Due to a different strategy of containment and a different age structure, there are differences in other countries but hopefully things are better in a few months.

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OP
Sun Mar 15 20:51:33 2020 UTC
(1 child)

I have very little confidence in most of our governments. Australia, UK, and USA appear to be heading for disaster.

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Sun Mar 15 21:16:29 2020 UTC
(0 children)

At the moment it seems Italy is 10 days ahead of other western countries ... at least thats what I have read. So watching what happens there may be helpful.

The rate of fatalities that South Korea report are in line with estimates, they are lower than reported in countries with less extensive testing. There should be a surge and a peak eventually, like in South Korea. In western countries that have less of a strategy of containment, there should be more of a peak. So countries that have called off large gatherings early and have a population that was willing to play along, there should be less of a peak. In countries in Central Europe with people who played along there may be less of a peak, in the countries you mentioned more of it. But imo a real disaster is not likely. With calling off surgeries and preparing beds, there are additional capacities.

But its interesting that some western countries seem to have placed more value on keeping the economy going than implementing measures that would have been disruptive short term but may have prevented more of a peak. Only few countries found some kind of middle way.

We will see how it plays out, as said watching Italy may be an idea.

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u/[deleted]
Tue Mar 17 04:39:15 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I have mine scheduled for early May, and this uncertainty over it is making me die inside.

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u/mrsAubrey
Wed May 13 16:42:58 2020 UTC
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For dr Kathy Rumer I was told all inpatient surgeries are pushed back until further notice.

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OP
Wed May 13 17:11:21 2020 UTC
(1 child)

If that’s Kathy Rumer please study this very carefully

https://www.reddit.com/r/TransSurgeriesWiki/wiki/srs/usa#wiki_kathy_lynn_rumer

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Wed May 13 17:12:47 2020 UTC
(0 children)

Yeah it is and autocorrect. Thanks I have tho.

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u/JaneyElizabeth
Sun Jul 19 05:20:41 2020 UTC
(0 children)

There is an individual from reuters looking towards our community in terms of whether we are receiving the sources that we need during Covad-19 and she could use some good answers. I did my best.

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u/TaraJo
Sat Jul 25 20:41:18 2020 UTC
(0 children)

I should point out that this will depend on the location. If the area where you're having your surgery done has hospitals reaching capacity, they'll cancel elective surgeries. If not, the surgeries might not be canceled. So having surgery done during this time IS possible, but you might want to make plans for the potential that they'll be postponed last minute.

For the record, I had surgery done by Dr Ley in Scottsdale, Arizona, on July 7. While talking to the nurses, they told me that was my surgery just a couple of days later, it would have been canceled or delayed.

For those of you who are making travel plans around surgery, make sure you find out any refund policies the airline or hotel have.

Also, because of covid, my surgery was slightly different. First, obviously, I had to do a covid test a few days before surgery and isolate between that test and the surgery itself. Which meant getting a hotel with a mini fridge and microwave and eating that food for a few days pre-op. Not a big problem, but I was kinda going stir crazy. Second difference is, hospital policies don't always let you have visitors while inpatient anymore, so there's a good chance you'll be all alone while you recover. There will be nurses there to help you out so you should be good on that front, but you may get lonely.

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Sat Mar 14 01:07:17 2020 UTC
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Sat Mar 14 01:11:53 2020 UTC
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They're medically necessary for long term mental health, but if there's a risk to physical health to alleviate that mental health, I'm going to put that physical health before it. I don't think they are taking this decision lightly.

Sat Mar 14 01:13:14 2020 UTC
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Sat Mar 14 01:40:44 2020 UTC
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I don't think you quite understand. You're not just risking your own health, you're risking everyone who you interact with's too. If you happen to get COVID-19 and are infectious with it you'll spread it to every nurse, doctor, and fellow patient you interact with. They may or may not be fine but their elderly family members, immunocompromised friends and family, or loved one's with underlying health issues might not be so lucky.

I understand how hard it is to have to wait more. But it's not just your life on the line.

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Sat Mar 14 02:05:14 2020 UTC
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u/pleasehelpMDthrowawa - It's not even just the spread, either. It's preparing for the very real potential that we will need potentially as many as 5 times more hospital beds than we actually have in the United States. (That number is drawn from today's reporting on internal CDC forecasts).

People like us waiting for elective gender-related surgeries have a second chance. We have the option to postpone it, even if it means significant mental health impacts. It's not immediately necessary to sustain life. That's not true for someone who needs a ventilator. If a person who's done an elective surgery takes a bed and suddenly it's needed for someone on death's door? That person's dying, no postponing that.

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Sat Mar 14 11:21:48 2020 UTC
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I lose my insurance in November. If they postponed my surgeries I would not be able to just get them done later.. it's not something everyone can put off. If I don't get my ffs in April and srs in July I wont be able to afford them anytime in the foreseeable future. Possibly ever...

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Sat Mar 14 12:01:12 2020 UTC
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Elective surgeries include things like cancer resections and bypass surgeries. It's roughly anything other than emergencies where your physical body is unable to sustain life without immediate medical intervention.

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Sat Mar 14 01:18:17 2020 UTC
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Any health resources trans surgeries (or knee replacement or whatever else is being postponed) take up are resources that could be going to diagnose, treat and prevent the spread of the virus.

Acknowledging that coronavirus is more important right now is not saying that FFS/SRS/BA etc. are not important. Just like the fact that there are starving children in Africa does not mean that kids missing meals in the US isn't a big deal.

Sat Mar 14 01:20:28 2020 UTC
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Sat Mar 14 02:08:49 2020 UTC
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Perhaps not, but hospital beds and nursing staff are still critical resources.

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Sat Mar 14 04:06:00 2020 UTC
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Many of those surgeons will switch to assisting coronavirus patients any way they can. Remember that although they specialize in certain surgeries, at the end of the day they're still doctors and are just as crucial to this as any other medical professional.

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Sat Mar 14 02:13:05 2020 UTC
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10% of coronavirus patients need intensive care and oxygen for weeks. They are going to die right now if they don’t get it, and many won’t. There’s no way any doctor will prioritise trans surgeries over that. They use scarce medical resources.